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More than in the Bay is hard to believe for Texas considering software engineers can get >400k these days if you know where to look. I'm assuming it's an oil co

More than in the Bay is hard to believe for Texas considering software engineers can get >400k these days if you know where to look. I'm assuming it's an oil company?

bdcravens 10y ago
No, it's not oil; it's related to shipping, and not tied to the region. (see my HN profile) I won't of course disclose my income, but I'm not picking extremes when I make that comparison. After all, I'm sure there's junior devs somewhere in Houston making $30k. I'm really just challenging the notion that success in software means accepting the reality of life in the Bay.
- chronic81 10y ago
  Engineers in the bay can make $1 million or higher, if you know where to look. You will likely never get that in Texas.
  - Spooky23 10y ago
    You're unlikely to get it there either. I will never draw a Bay Area salary. But I have a great house and a kid in a good private school for <50% of the cost to live in SFO.
  - bdcravens 10y ago
    Both you and the parent comment are saying "if you know where to look". I'm sure those positions exist for specialized needs, where they'll pay anything. I'm not talking experts in middle-out compression here but rather up the middle developers. The kind who will interview for below market in exchange for equity, or at best, get market rates even though their living will cost 3x what it would cost in Houston.
driverdan 10y ago
> considering software engineers can get >400k these days if you know where to look That is far above average.
dmritard96 10y ago
please do share where to look or examples. I run my own company (flair.co) and have no interest in looking for another job as long as we are continuing to make money. But I find the idea of 400K+ as an engineer to be crazy. Is it for some particular/niche experience or academic background? Is it execution speed? I feel like I can whip up whatever software I need and fast barring super deep academic bits but can't imagine who would pay my 400K.
- Jommi 10y ago
  because they dont want you to change companies.
- eru 10y ago
  > I feel like I can whip up whatever software I need and fast barring super deep academic bits but can't imagine who would pay my 400K. I don't know about the 400k specifically, but I hope you might want to change your attitude: you don't need to sell for what you believe is reasonable and can imagine; you want to be selling to people who have more money than sense.
eru 10y ago
You can make that at Google without becoming a manager, if you know something they really want (or are otherwise technically senior enough).

More than in the Bay is hard to believe for Texas considering software engineers can get >400k these days if you know where to look. I'm assuming it's an oil company?

bdcravens 10y ago

No, it's not oil; it's related to shipping, and not tied to the region. (see my HN profile) I won't of course disclose my income, but I'm not picking extremes when I make that comparison. After all, I'm sure there's junior devs somewhere in Houston making $30k. I'm really just challenging the notion that success in software means accepting the reality of life in the Bay.

chronic81 10y ago
Engineers in the bay can make $1 million or higher, if you know where to look. You will likely never get that in Texas.
- Spooky23 10y ago
  You're unlikely to get it there either. I will never draw a Bay Area salary. But I have a great house and a kid in a good private school for <50% of the cost to live in SFO.
- bdcravens 10y ago
  Both you and the parent comment are saying "if you know where to look". I'm sure those positions exist for specialized needs, where they'll pay anything. I'm not talking experts in middle-out compression here but rather up the middle developers. The kind who will interview for below market in exchange for equity, or at best, get market rates even though their living will cost 3x what it would cost in Houston.

driverdan 10y ago

> considering software engineers can get >400k these days if you know where to look That is far above average.

dmritard96 10y ago

please do share where to look or examples. I run my own company (flair.co) and have no interest in looking for another job as long as we are continuing to make money. But I find the idea of 400K+ as an engineer to be crazy. Is it for some particular/niche experience or academic background? Is it execution speed? I feel like I can whip up whatever software I need and fast barring super deep academic bits but can't imagine who would pay my 400K.

Jommi 10y ago
because they dont want you to change companies.
eru 10y ago
> I feel like I can whip up whatever software I need and fast barring super deep academic bits but can't imagine who would pay my 400K. I don't know about the 400k specifically, but I hope you might want to change your attitude: you don't need to sell for what you believe is reasonable and can imagine; you want to be selling to people who have more money than sense.

eru 10y ago

You can make that at Google without becoming a manager, if you know something they really want (or are otherwise technically senior enough).