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Facebook can't sell itself as a new live media platform and then just remove videos that are politically disturbing. As an aside, this is the 559th person kill

Facebook can't sell itself as a new live media platform and then just remove videos that are politically disturbing. As an aside, this is the 559th person killed by police in the United States this year. His name was Philando Castile‬. They were pulled over for a broken tail light. He was shot with a 4 year old child in the backseat of the car. (you can find the video on youtube, twitter, and elsewhere, but be forewarned, it is disturbing)

joshschreuder 10y ago
FWIW it appears to be available at the time of this post. https://i.imgur.com/zLaZMxw.png https://i.imgur.com/zLaZMxw.png I'm not game to click it to see if the video actually loads as I actively avoid disturbing content.
- mparlane 10y ago
  The shooting itself is not part of the video. Video is after the shooting, it shows a man with a blood covered white shirt clutching his arm. The lady filming is talking and asking Jesus to tell her that her boyfriend is not going to die. He looks alive in the video available. And yes it loads.
  - lnguyen 10y ago
    It's been reported that he died shortly after arriving at the hospital http://www.startribune.com/aftermath-of-officer-involved-shooting-captured-on-phone-video/385789251/ http://www.startribune.com/aftermath-of-officer-involved-sho...
rdtsc 10y ago
I forgot where I read it but in some states there is a higher chance of getting killed by cops than by a criminal gang. Certainly higher risk than terrorism, it seems.
- wallace_f 10y ago
  What is terrorism? We define that as Americans as a brown, probably Muslim, wearing a burqa, and motivated by religious cause. The Google definition is: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Do you really think the police and US government does not use violence and intimidation against their own citizens in the pursuit of political aims? Who are the terrorist that kill the most Americans, then?
  - rdtsc 10y ago
    > What is terrorism? However you defined it, I think it is still more likely to get killed by cops. > Do you really think the police and US government does not use violence and intimidation against their own citizens in the pursuit of political aims? I was trying to imply that between the lines. But yes, that was the intended connection.
    - wallace_f 10y ago
      >However you defined it, I think it is still more likely to get killed by cops. I was not disagreeing with you. I was arguing that the way in which we use language has an important impact on shaping the way in which we think about the world around us.
a13n 10y ago
Video is not removed for me.
- mirimir 10y ago
  Yes, it's back now. I'm guessing that it went offline temporarily, while they were adding the warning about graphic content.
  - mirimir 10y ago
    We know now that police took it down after impounding her phone. And that Facebook put it back up. That speaks very highly of them.
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icebraining 10y ago
600th, if you count every death by a police officer: http://killedbypolice.net/ http://killedbypolice.net/
- mattnumbe 10y ago
  That site is unbelievably sad. Just from randomly clicking on links to the news stories so many of them seem incredibly unjustified.
- mirimir 10y ago
  Being killed by police is still pretty rare in the US, even if you're not white. But then there are all the adverse nonlethal interactions. I wonder if it's common enough for concerned people to have live feeds. Perhaps triggered by loud noises, shock waves, voice commands ("help!") etc. For groups, watching each other, and the environment.
  - maho 10y ago
    If you compare "being killed by the police" to other causes of death, then yes, you can call it rare. However, 600 killings in just over half a year is deeply troubling when you compare it to other first-world nations. For example, in Germany, the police kills approximately 6-8 people per year [1]. If you scale this number by the US/German population, it's equivalent to 24-32 police killing per year. Clearly, the U.S. has a problem. [1]: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffengebrauch_der_Polizei_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffengebrauch_der_Polizei_in_...
    - mirimir 10y ago
      Yes, the US does have a problem with police violence. And through mobile tech, it's being better documented.
      - akshatpradhan 10y ago
        Don't you see why we need police body cams? Imagine if the police had forced her to turn off the phone. This video wouldn't exist. We wouldn't have even known about this. I remember being pulled over by the cops. I was on my phone while he was doing the license check, and the officer told me to turn off my phone. I complied, so it's interesting to see how this woman luckily got away with recording the video. If the police had told her to turn off the phone, there's nothing she could have done at that moment in time. All transparency of the incident would have been lost. He's dead. My professor once said, "The police have gone from 'Serve and Protect' to 'Seek and Destroy'."

joshschreuder 10y ago

FWIW it appears to be available at the time of this post. https://i.imgur.com/zLaZMxw.png https://i.imgur.com/zLaZMxw.png I'm not game to click it to see if the video actually loads as I actively avoid disturbing content.

mparlane 10y ago
The shooting itself is not part of the video. Video is after the shooting, it shows a man with a blood covered white shirt clutching his arm. The lady filming is talking and asking Jesus to tell her that her boyfriend is not going to die. He looks alive in the video available. And yes it loads.
- lnguyen 10y ago
  It's been reported that he died shortly after arriving at the hospital http://www.startribune.com/aftermath-of-officer-involved-shooting-captured-on-phone-video/385789251/ http://www.startribune.com/aftermath-of-officer-involved-sho...

rdtsc 10y ago

I forgot where I read it but in some states there is a higher chance of getting killed by cops than by a criminal gang. Certainly higher risk than terrorism, it seems.

wallace_f 10y ago
What is terrorism? We define that as Americans as a brown, probably Muslim, wearing a burqa, and motivated by religious cause. The Google definition is: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Do you really think the police and US government does not use violence and intimidation against their own citizens in the pursuit of political aims? Who are the terrorist that kill the most Americans, then?
- rdtsc 10y ago
  > What is terrorism? However you defined it, I think it is still more likely to get killed by cops. > Do you really think the police and US government does not use violence and intimidation against their own citizens in the pursuit of political aims? I was trying to imply that between the lines. But yes, that was the intended connection.
  - wallace_f 10y ago
    >However you defined it, I think it is still more likely to get killed by cops. I was not disagreeing with you. I was arguing that the way in which we use language has an important impact on shaping the way in which we think about the world around us.

a13n 10y ago

Video is not removed for me.

mirimir 10y ago
Yes, it's back now. I'm guessing that it went offline temporarily, while they were adding the warning about graphic content.
- mirimir 10y ago
  We know now that police took it down after impounding her phone. And that Facebook put it back up. That speaks very highly of them.

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icebraining 10y ago

600th, if you count every death by a police officer: http://killedbypolice.net/ http://killedbypolice.net/

mattnumbe 10y ago
That site is unbelievably sad. Just from randomly clicking on links to the news stories so many of them seem incredibly unjustified.
mirimir 10y ago
Being killed by police is still pretty rare in the US, even if you're not white. But then there are all the adverse nonlethal interactions. I wonder if it's common enough for concerned people to have live feeds. Perhaps triggered by loud noises, shock waves, voice commands ("help!") etc. For groups, watching each other, and the environment.
- maho 10y ago
  If you compare "being killed by the police" to other causes of death, then yes, you can call it rare. However, 600 killings in just over half a year is deeply troubling when you compare it to other first-world nations. For example, in Germany, the police kills approximately 6-8 people per year [1]. If you scale this number by the US/German population, it's equivalent to 24-32 police killing per year. Clearly, the U.S. has a problem. [1]: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffengebrauch_der_Polizei_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffengebrauch_der_Polizei_in_...
  - mirimir 10y ago
    Yes, the US does have a problem with police violence. And through mobile tech, it's being better documented.
    - akshatpradhan 10y ago
      Don't you see why we need police body cams? Imagine if the police had forced her to turn off the phone. This video wouldn't exist. We wouldn't have even known about this. I remember being pulled over by the cops. I was on my phone while he was doing the license check, and the officer told me to turn off my phone. I complied, so it's interesting to see how this woman luckily got away with recording the video. If the police had told her to turn off the phone, there's nothing she could have done at that moment in time. All transparency of the incident would have been lost. He's dead. My professor once said, "The police have gone from 'Serve and Protect' to 'Seek and Destroy'."