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Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

52 points by bezzi 10y ago

gravypod 10y ago
I don't know how much of an advancement this is for a seasoned user, but I do think this would be a great learning tool since you can visually see all the commands generated by the terminal. That's what shines in my eyes from this project.
ubertaco 10y ago
It's a paid terminal emulator, written (by all appearances) in some kind of Electron-like (so a much much higher footprint), with a GUI for what can already be done via aliases, functions, and scripts. And no telling how well $TERM detection works (show me vim! Show me something that wants 256 colors!) If it was free, I might still not use it, because my terminal emulator needs to be lightweight and bulletproof, not heavy and shiny. A terminal emulator is a hammer -- simple, solid, good for constant use -- not an art piece.
- philtar 10y ago
  I think you missed the gigantic "Download" button you see when you first open up the page. That said, probably still won't use it. Too much whitespace and too shiny for my liking
  - zackelan 10y ago
    So I can download it for free, or I can buy "1 year free update" for $10. They need a much better explanation of what exactly I'm paying for, and what I'm limited to with the free version.
- gnufied 10y ago
  This is how Emacs looks in it - http://imgur.com/E6cLkoF http://imgur.com/E6cLkoF . Turning off the theme I am using fixes it, but many emacs shortcuts don't work.
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farresito 10y ago
Interesting concept, but I'm not sure who this is directed towards. I can see some people using this, but not that much. (experienced) Developers will naturally go towards the features that shells like bash/zsh offer (e.g. aliases), and most inexperienced developers... well, I don't see them putting that much effort into configuring their terminal, and besides this, most people in the Linux world will hardly pay for something that they can get for free from somewhere else, unless it really is a necessity, which doesn't seem to be the case here. That said, I wish you the best on that. Always good to see different stuff.
delish 10y ago
If you're like me, you'll think, "aliases!" But, the shell is a bunch of nontrivial things to learn. Tools like Go Terminal_ could make a less discontinuous learning path for shell. I recently had to teach[0] someone a bit of shell, and I kept tripping over explanations of: command -[flags] arg1 arg2 arg3 | something else Merely explaining that -xvf modified tar and how was a challenge. After I explained it, the user appended -xvf to cat in a different session. The above line would be a dozen lines of code in a blub. Shell takes a long time to grok. All that said, I wouldn't call Go Terminal_ "efficient" ;). [0] I did a terrible job.
- sdegutis 10y ago
  > But, the shell is a bunch of nontrivial things to learn. Yeah but if you're gonna learn this trade, you kinda gotta learn these things eventually, so why settle for a pacifier indefinitely?
  - delish 10y ago
    I should have been more explicit. I'm wishing for a less discontinuous shell-learning-path, meaning to say that you'd stick with Go Terminal_ until you found you wanted something that zsh or tmux or whatever offered you. Everything I've learned in programming I've learned that way: do something the repetitive way until I notice it, then research or do something better.
saboot 10y ago
I might not see a developer using this, but an administrator I could. Needing to run one-off scripts and server management. However only if it would work remotely, and with host specific configuration and command options.
- nameless912 10y ago
  Not to be "that guy", but if I saw an administrator using this, I would sit them down and show them the magic of using a real shell(tm). I mean, seriously, if you're a computing professional, and you're using a shell on a daily basis, this is an embarrassingly silly crutch to use. Setting up aliases is no more difficult than using this....thing, and instantly useable over ssh or copyable to other machines. Fo' free. Just saying.
- stonogo 10y ago
  The proper response to seeing a systems administrator using one-off scripts from his workstation to manage systems is to fire him immediately and hire someone competent.
  - fapjacks 10y ago
    Right, because any sysadmin worth his salt is going to embed that ugly hack right into the infrastructure for all eternity.
dc2 10y ago
This appears superficial, and that this is paid as well with no (visible) published open source turns me off. The mistakes in the GIF communicate that this was a slapped-together product. Additionally, requiring mouse clicks for a visual replacement of the alias command with a few extra bells and whistles is not the greatest appeal to a community of developers. I hope that the fact that this was written in Go does not outweigh its shortcomings in the eyes of HN.
- guessmyname 10y ago
  Don't be fooled by the name, this application is not written in Go, that is just a random word that they chose for the name. The application was written in HTML and bundled with a webview powered by CEF (probably Electron). Just download the application and execute `strings goterminal | grep chromium` and you will see what I am talking about; again, this has 0% Go code. EDIT: Here is the list of 720 NPM packages used by this: http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX EDIT2: To rub salt into the wound, this thing is ~620MB of HTML + JS + Electron, that is more or less how an entire Ubuntu installation was six years ago, like really? An entire basic Linux installation could have been included in all this archive and these guys decided to fill it with JavaScript code. Isn't a terminal emulator supposed to be lightweight?
  - knodi 10y ago
    720 npm packages..........................................
    - Matthias247 10y ago
      Guess the chances that it won't built anymore in 1 week are 99.9%.
  - nomel 10y ago
    > this thing is ~620MB of HTML + JS + Electron Is it 620MB of source text? I'm not a web guy, so I literally I can't understand this, unless, since it's a web tech, 30 minutes of cat videos are required in the source.
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nameless912 10y ago
There's literally nothing about this I like. A terminal with a gradient background might look pretty for screenshots, but for long sessions it just adds to fatigue and makes text harder to read. "Saving your favorite commands" in a normal terminal involves writing an alias into your rc file, not a bunch of button clicks. Same goes for the whole "interactive flags" thing. Whoever made this clearly hates the terminal and wanted to bring a hipstery web 2.0 approach to the terminal. My question is, WHY? Oh, and it's PAID? Fuck that. Learn to use a proper terminal or don't bother, simple as that. That isn't me being a crotchety old timer, that's me giving you serious life advice. You will always be faster in the terminal if you learn to use it properly. a 2 hour tutorial in shell scripting and learning to use `man` is worth far more to your career than 10 bucks. Learn it the right way if you're going to bother. </rant>
- benbenolson 10y ago
  I agree with each and every one of your comments; in addition, I would like to know how this project was created: what language it was made in, why the author found it necessary to create it, etc.
  - guessmyname 10y ago
    > what language it was made in HTML + JavaScript + Electron Just download that archive, extract its content, and you will find the "goterminal" script that is basically an ASAR archive [1] with a copy of CEF [2] as the webview for the web application that they (for some unknown reason) decided to create. [1] https://github.com/electron/asar https://github.com/electron/asar [2] https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef
    - mrmondo 10y ago
      Oh god, the last software I'd want to be running a terminal in!
    - placeybordeaux 10y ago
      Yikes. Thats a great way to make a terminal into a memory hog and unresponsive under load.
JoshTriplett 10y ago
Amusing idea, and this kind of "quick GUI-builder" mechanism reminds me of ifttt or zapier in the way it gives more scripting/glue power to people who normally have access to less of it. And this would be useful for a mobile or tablet application, where GUI shortcuts to save typing help a great deal. But the demo video shows one major issue that breaks its primary functionality as a terminal: the font rendering has a vertical spacing problem going on, with lines 1.5x spaced, which would break many screen-oriented applications, especially those that use line-drawing characters. Notice how at 22s into the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDxvJn1jV0#t=22s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDxvJn1jV0#t=22s), the inverse-colored character shortcuts at the bottom of nano's UI have space between the white boxes; the white boxes should touch, like this: https://imgur.com/q0TERnM https://imgur.com/q0TERnM This is either a bug with the terminal itself, or a bug with the font used. I looked for a bug tracker to report the bug, at which point I noticed that it wasn't FOSS, and promptly lost all interest in taking the time to make such a report. Also, while I realize that this uses a browser engine for its UI, there's something surreal about a terminal emulator bundling libffmpeg.so.
enugu 10y ago
Looks like a visual version for an alias list. Here are somethings which might be more substantial improvements. A status bar which helps in understanding what a command does. So you type 'command -xva a b' and the status bar gives an English description that the command is going to do such and such(based on flags) on files a and b. Simple discoverability like an interactive version of reading man pages or apropos, where after typing something like git or ls, the user who doesn't remember the exact options, can press some shortcut and type a english description like 'hidden files' 'reset' and the status bar displays the relevant flags and their description. This kind of semantic autocomplete, would save a visit to a long man page.
microcolonel 10y ago
This isn't even a decent terminal emulator in the basic ways. It has an enormous memory footprint, abysmal compatibility, and very little in the way of novel features to offer. If you use a better shell (like fish) it leaves this even less appealing. I'm sure this took some work to do, but I don't know anyone with a job to pay for it, which would use it. The word "efficient" describes the exact opposite of what this is. In addition to all of that, the package includes all of the build-time dependencies with it. And the package they use for the terminal emulator part of it is explicitly abandoned by its author (https://github.com/chjj/term.js/ https://github.com/chjj/term.js/) Nobody should pay 10 dollars(let alone 20 dollars for limited ongoing support) for more than half a gigabyte of unmaintained, deprecated open source code, plus about 2000SLOC of proprietary code for a sidebar which does something which is basically already built into the shell. Also, there is no clear roadmap for this; so it's totally unclear what "3 years of updates" means when half of the thing is deprecated and it hasn't even left beta!
bitmapbrother 10y ago
Is this some type of sponsored post shit?
spriggan3 10y ago
Why is the download 100MB big ? Isn't it a bit heavy for a simple terminal ?
- guessmyname 10y ago
  Because it bundles Electron [1] which weighs (for version 1.2.6) around ~40MB, if you also include the size of the 720 NPM packages [2] that this application uses then you get the same size that you are complaining about. However, if you also extract the content of the archive you will notice that it actually weighs ~620MB LOL. [1] https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/tag/v1.2.6 https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/tag/v1.2.6 [2] http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX
robmccoll 10y ago
Just what I've always wanted from a terminal - things I can only do with a GUI and mouse. /sarcasm This product seems to fundamentally misunderstand people that use terminals. Perhaps it would do better to instead become more of a thing that puts quick GUI wrappers around terminal commands and tries to parse the output and present it in a pretty GUI way for people who'd prefer not to get their hands dirty? Otherwise, this seems like what aliases and functions in my bashrc are for. Either way, why is there a group of people that seems to think we desperately need to take applications that we are already running natively, wrap them in HTML/CSS/JS, throw them inside of a webview, embed that webview into a separate Chromium instance, and string it all together using a tool and execution environment designed to take a client-side single threaded web scripting language and use it for making servers? (Mugatu: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills - does nobody see this?!?)
- guessmyname 10y ago
  > why is there a group of people that [want to wrap everything] in HTML/CSS/JS I believe you already know the answer to your own question, because to be honest I think the answer is pretty obvious; but in case you are actually curious about the answer here is what I think (mostly sarcasm, don't expect much): The majority of people making these applications are web developers who are frustrated by the difficulty of learning one or more of the popular GUI libraries available in the market (Cocoa, QT, GTK, etc), they found Node-Webkit and then Electron and realized that they could target desktop users using the same stack they have been using so far (HTML + CSS + JavaScript). Since they are web developers and many of them were originally designers, it is makes sense to think that they can make shiny websites to attract people into trying their projects. I think most of these programmers just want to show up, try this new Electron thing, and get acknowledged by other people. I don't think they believe their applications are actually good because it is obvious that they are not (as in this case). As much as I hate this trend of web applications disguising themselves as (native) desktop application I have to agree that Electron have allowed some people to... Hmmm, you know what? I don't think Electron has allowed anyone (with the exception of GitHub) to accomplish anything, fuck that trend.
  - eberkund 10y ago
knodi 10y ago
alias is free
kazinator 10y ago
In my experience, terminals like xterm and rxvt ran extremely efficiently on machines 23 years ago, like, oh, a 66 MHz 486 DX2 with 8 Mb RAM. I can't say that I ever had a complaint with the speed of scrolling, or rendering of characters, or general responsiveness.
_navaneethan 10y ago
I was trying to install this .deb package with ubuntu software center. My system warns with the below message. "This package is of bad quality: The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath. The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20."
programath 10y ago
IMO, it makes no sense.
socceroos 10y ago
You've been lambasted! While I agree with pretty much all the criticisms raised by others, I would just like to qualify that I like the idea of attempting to disrupt the traditional terminal. A terminal will always be a window from GUI land to the shell, but that doesn't mean we can't play with it! :)

52 points by bezzi 10y ago

I don't know how much of an advancement this is for a seasoned user, but I do think this would be a great learning tool since you can visually see all the commands generated by the terminal. That's what shines in my eyes from this project.

ubertaco 10y ago

It's a paid terminal emulator, written (by all appearances) in some kind of Electron-like (so a much much higher footprint), with a GUI for what can already be done via aliases, functions, and scripts. And no telling how well $TERM detection works (show me vim! Show me something that wants 256 colors!) If it was free, I might still not use it, because my terminal emulator needs to be lightweight and bulletproof, not heavy and shiny. A terminal emulator is a hammer -- simple, solid, good for constant use -- not an art piece.

philtar 10y ago
I think you missed the gigantic "Download" button you see when you first open up the page. That said, probably still won't use it. Too much whitespace and too shiny for my liking
- zackelan 10y ago
  So I can download it for free, or I can buy "1 year free update" for $10. They need a much better explanation of what exactly I'm paying for, and what I'm limited to with the free version.
gnufied 10y ago
This is how Emacs looks in it - http://imgur.com/E6cLkoF http://imgur.com/E6cLkoF . Turning off the theme I am using fixes it, but many emacs shortcuts don't work.
- deleted 10y ago
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farresito 10y ago

Interesting concept, but I'm not sure who this is directed towards. I can see some people using this, but not that much. (experienced) Developers will naturally go towards the features that shells like bash/zsh offer (e.g. aliases), and most inexperienced developers... well, I don't see them putting that much effort into configuring their terminal, and besides this, most people in the Linux world will hardly pay for something that they can get for free from somewhere else, unless it really is a necessity, which doesn't seem to be the case here. That said, I wish you the best on that. Always good to see different stuff.

delish 10y ago

If you're like me, you'll think, "aliases!" But, the shell is a bunch of nontrivial things to learn. Tools like Go Terminal_ could make a less discontinuous learning path for shell. I recently had to teach[0] someone a bit of shell, and I kept tripping over explanations of: command -[flags] arg1 arg2 arg3 | something else Merely explaining that -xvf modified tar and how was a challenge. After I explained it, the user appended -xvf to cat in a different session. The above line would be a dozen lines of code in a blub. Shell takes a long time to grok. All that said, I wouldn't call Go Terminal_ "efficient" ;). [0] I did a terrible job.

sdegutis 10y ago
> But, the shell is a bunch of nontrivial things to learn. Yeah but if you're gonna learn this trade, you kinda gotta learn these things eventually, so why settle for a pacifier indefinitely?
- delish 10y ago
  I should have been more explicit. I'm wishing for a less discontinuous shell-learning-path, meaning to say that you'd stick with Go Terminal_ until you found you wanted something that zsh or tmux or whatever offered you. Everything I've learned in programming I've learned that way: do something the repetitive way until I notice it, then research or do something better.

saboot 10y ago

I might not see a developer using this, but an administrator I could. Needing to run one-off scripts and server management. However only if it would work remotely, and with host specific configuration and command options.

nameless912 10y ago
Not to be "that guy", but if I saw an administrator using this, I would sit them down and show them the magic of using a real shell(tm). I mean, seriously, if you're a computing professional, and you're using a shell on a daily basis, this is an embarrassingly silly crutch to use. Setting up aliases is no more difficult than using this....thing, and instantly useable over ssh or copyable to other machines. Fo' free. Just saying.
stonogo 10y ago
The proper response to seeing a systems administrator using one-off scripts from his workstation to manage systems is to fire him immediately and hire someone competent.
- fapjacks 10y ago
  Right, because any sysadmin worth his salt is going to embed that ugly hack right into the infrastructure for all eternity.

dc2 10y ago

This appears superficial, and that this is paid as well with no (visible) published open source turns me off. The mistakes in the GIF communicate that this was a slapped-together product. Additionally, requiring mouse clicks for a visual replacement of the alias command with a few extra bells and whistles is not the greatest appeal to a community of developers. I hope that the fact that this was written in Go does not outweigh its shortcomings in the eyes of HN.

guessmyname 10y ago
Don't be fooled by the name, this application is not written in Go, that is just a random word that they chose for the name. The application was written in HTML and bundled with a webview powered by CEF (probably Electron). Just download the application and execute `strings goterminal | grep chromium` and you will see what I am talking about; again, this has 0% Go code. EDIT: Here is the list of 720 NPM packages used by this: http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX EDIT2: To rub salt into the wound, this thing is ~620MB of HTML + JS + Electron, that is more or less how an entire Ubuntu installation was six years ago, like really? An entire basic Linux installation could have been included in all this archive and these guys decided to fill it with JavaScript code. Isn't a terminal emulator supposed to be lightweight?
- knodi 10y ago
  720 npm packages..........................................
  - Matthias247 10y ago
    Guess the chances that it won't built anymore in 1 week are 99.9%.
- nomel 10y ago
  > this thing is ~620MB of HTML + JS + Electron Is it 620MB of source text? I'm not a web guy, so I literally I can't understand this, unless, since it's a web tech, 30 minutes of cat videos are required in the source.

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nameless912 10y ago

There's literally nothing about this I like. A terminal with a gradient background might look pretty for screenshots, but for long sessions it just adds to fatigue and makes text harder to read. "Saving your favorite commands" in a normal terminal involves writing an alias into your rc file, not a bunch of button clicks. Same goes for the whole "interactive flags" thing. Whoever made this clearly hates the terminal and wanted to bring a hipstery web 2.0 approach to the terminal. My question is, WHY? Oh, and it's PAID? Fuck that. Learn to use a proper terminal or don't bother, simple as that. That isn't me being a crotchety old timer, that's me giving you serious life advice. You will always be faster in the terminal if you learn to use it properly. a 2 hour tutorial in shell scripting and learning to use `man` is worth far more to your career than 10 bucks. Learn it the right way if you're going to bother. </rant>

benbenolson 10y ago
I agree with each and every one of your comments; in addition, I would like to know how this project was created: what language it was made in, why the author found it necessary to create it, etc.
- guessmyname 10y ago
  > what language it was made in HTML + JavaScript + Electron Just download that archive, extract its content, and you will find the "goterminal" script that is basically an ASAR archive [1] with a copy of CEF [2] as the webview for the web application that they (for some unknown reason) decided to create. [1] https://github.com/electron/asar https://github.com/electron/asar [2] https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef
  - mrmondo 10y ago
    Oh god, the last software I'd want to be running a terminal in!
  - placeybordeaux 10y ago
    Yikes. Thats a great way to make a terminal into a memory hog and unresponsive under load.

JoshTriplett 10y ago

Amusing idea, and this kind of "quick GUI-builder" mechanism reminds me of ifttt or zapier in the way it gives more scripting/glue power to people who normally have access to less of it. And this would be useful for a mobile or tablet application, where GUI shortcuts to save typing help a great deal. But the demo video shows one major issue that breaks its primary functionality as a terminal: the font rendering has a vertical spacing problem going on, with lines 1.5x spaced, which would break many screen-oriented applications, especially those that use line-drawing characters. Notice how at 22s into the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDxvJn1jV0#t=22s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDxvJn1jV0#t=22s), the inverse-colored character shortcuts at the bottom of nano's UI have space between the white boxes; the white boxes should touch, like this: https://imgur.com/q0TERnM https://imgur.com/q0TERnM This is either a bug with the terminal itself, or a bug with the font used. I looked for a bug tracker to report the bug, at which point I noticed that it wasn't FOSS, and promptly lost all interest in taking the time to make such a report. Also, while I realize that this uses a browser engine for its UI, there's something surreal about a terminal emulator bundling libffmpeg.so.

enugu 10y ago

Looks like a visual version for an alias list. Here are somethings which might be more substantial improvements. A status bar which helps in understanding what a command does. So you type 'command -xva a b' and the status bar gives an English description that the command is going to do such and such(based on flags) on files a and b. Simple discoverability like an interactive version of reading man pages or apropos, where after typing something like git or ls, the user who doesn't remember the exact options, can press some shortcut and type a english description like 'hidden files' 'reset' and the status bar displays the relevant flags and their description. This kind of semantic autocomplete, would save a visit to a long man page.

microcolonel 10y ago

This isn't even a decent terminal emulator in the basic ways. It has an enormous memory footprint, abysmal compatibility, and very little in the way of novel features to offer. If you use a better shell (like fish) it leaves this even less appealing. I'm sure this took some work to do, but I don't know anyone with a job to pay for it, which would use it. The word "efficient" describes the exact opposite of what this is. In addition to all of that, the package includes all of the build-time dependencies with it. And the package they use for the terminal emulator part of it is explicitly abandoned by its author (https://github.com/chjj/term.js/ https://github.com/chjj/term.js/) Nobody should pay 10 dollars(let alone 20 dollars for limited ongoing support) for more than half a gigabyte of unmaintained, deprecated open source code, plus about 2000SLOC of proprietary code for a sidebar which does something which is basically already built into the shell. Also, there is no clear roadmap for this; so it's totally unclear what "3 years of updates" means when half of the thing is deprecated and it hasn't even left beta!

bitmapbrother 10y ago

Is this some type of sponsored post shit?

spriggan3 10y ago

Why is the download 100MB big ? Isn't it a bit heavy for a simple terminal ?

guessmyname 10y ago
Because it bundles Electron [1] which weighs (for version 1.2.6) around ~40MB, if you also include the size of the 720 NPM packages [2] that this application uses then you get the same size that you are complaining about. However, if you also extract the content of the archive you will notice that it actually weighs ~620MB LOL. [1] https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/tag/v1.2.6 https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/tag/v1.2.6 [2] http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX

robmccoll 10y ago

Just what I've always wanted from a terminal - things I can only do with a GUI and mouse. /sarcasm This product seems to fundamentally misunderstand people that use terminals. Perhaps it would do better to instead become more of a thing that puts quick GUI wrappers around terminal commands and tries to parse the output and present it in a pretty GUI way for people who'd prefer not to get their hands dirty? Otherwise, this seems like what aliases and functions in my bashrc are for. Either way, why is there a group of people that seems to think we desperately need to take applications that we are already running natively, wrap them in HTML/CSS/JS, throw them inside of a webview, embed that webview into a separate Chromium instance, and string it all together using a tool and execution environment designed to take a client-side single threaded web scripting language and use it for making servers? (Mugatu: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills - does nobody see this?!?)

guessmyname 10y ago
> why is there a group of people that [want to wrap everything] in HTML/CSS/JS I believe you already know the answer to your own question, because to be honest I think the answer is pretty obvious; but in case you are actually curious about the answer here is what I think (mostly sarcasm, don't expect much): The majority of people making these applications are web developers who are frustrated by the difficulty of learning one or more of the popular GUI libraries available in the market (Cocoa, QT, GTK, etc), they found Node-Webkit and then Electron and realized that they could target desktop users using the same stack they have been using so far (HTML + CSS + JavaScript). Since they are web developers and many of them were originally designers, it is makes sense to think that they can make shiny websites to attract people into trying their projects. I think most of these programmers just want to show up, try this new Electron thing, and get acknowledged by other people. I don't think they believe their applications are actually good because it is obvious that they are not (as in this case). As much as I hate this trend of web applications disguising themselves as (native) desktop application I have to agree that Electron have allowed some people to... Hmmm, you know what? I don't think Electron has allowed anyone (with the exception of GitHub) to accomplish anything, fuck that trend.
- eberkund 10y ago

knodi 10y ago

alias is free

kazinator 10y ago

In my experience, terminals like xterm and rxvt ran extremely efficiently on machines 23 years ago, like, oh, a 66 MHz 486 DX2 with 8 Mb RAM. I can't say that I ever had a complaint with the speed of scrolling, or rendering of characters, or general responsiveness.

_navaneethan 10y ago

I was trying to install this .deb package with ubuntu software center. My system warns with the below message. "This package is of bad quality: The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath. The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20."

programath 10y ago

IMO, it makes no sense.

socceroos 10y ago

You've been lambasted! While I agree with pretty much all the criticisms raised by others, I would just like to qualify that I like the idea of attempting to disrupt the traditional terminal. A terminal will always be a window from GUI land to the shell, but that doesn't mean we can't play with it! :)