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> It's a problem that the feature is called "autopilot,"… Why is that a problem? An autopilot system is designed to assist, not replace, human operators. And t

by cynix 10y ago

> It's a problem that the feature is called "autopilot,"… Why is that a problem? An autopilot system is designed to assist, not replace, human operators. And that's exactly what Tesla's Autopilot does. > … but the larger issue is that the car does not enforce what the company often says in press releases, which is that you need to remain alert and with your hands on the wheel. Cars without Autopilot (i.e. every car ever manufactured in the past 100 years) also do not enforce that the driver must hold the steering wheel. I don't see anyone complaining about that. It's the driver's responsibility to place their hands on the wheel.

studentrob 10y ago
>> It's a problem that the feature is called "autopilot,"… > Why is that a problem? The US is not in the business of allowing companies to sell products that pose a safety hazard to users or people around them. Tesla's version of autopilot is a new feature that government agencies take pretty seriously. NTSB is now investigating the Florida crash. There are several Youtube videos of people abusing the tech. Other drivers do not want those people driving around them. To get people to use the system safely, the government can (a) ask police to check that people are paying attention while driving, or (b) require stricter hardware controls such as hands must be on the wheel. (a) is impractical > Cars without Autopilot (i.e. every car ever manufactured in the past 100 years) also do not enforce that the driver must hold the steering wheel. I don't see anyone complaining about that. Other car systems are irrelevant. This is new tech that had to be approved for use in the US. It was approved last October.
cwillu 10y ago
Most cars manufactured in the last hundred years has a tendency to, you know, _crash within seconds_ when the driver lets go of the steering wheel. In practice, this tends to train users to keep a hand on the wheel.
darpa_escapee 10y ago
> It's the driver's responsibility to place their hands on the wheel I'd argue it's the manufacturer's responsibility that they ensure a driver using their "autopilot" feature keeps their hands on the wheel and maintains attention so I am not hit by one of their broken vehicles. Other cars that do automated driving tasks alert drivers loudly when they take their hands off the wheel, there is no reason that shouldn't be standard. Pushing the responsibility on to consumers when it's a solved problem in the industry is negligent and irresponsible on the manufacturer's part.

by cynix 10y ago

studentrob 10y ago

>> It's a problem that the feature is called "autopilot,"… > Why is that a problem? The US is not in the business of allowing companies to sell products that pose a safety hazard to users or people around them. Tesla's version of autopilot is a new feature that government agencies take pretty seriously. NTSB is now investigating the Florida crash. There are several Youtube videos of people abusing the tech. Other drivers do not want those people driving around them. To get people to use the system safely, the government can (a) ask police to check that people are paying attention while driving, or (b) require stricter hardware controls such as hands must be on the wheel. (a) is impractical > Cars without Autopilot (i.e. every car ever manufactured in the past 100 years) also do not enforce that the driver must hold the steering wheel. I don't see anyone complaining about that. Other car systems are irrelevant. This is new tech that had to be approved for use in the US. It was approved last October.

cwillu 10y ago

Most cars manufactured in the last hundred years has a tendency to, you know, _crash within seconds_ when the driver lets go of the steering wheel. In practice, this tends to train users to keep a hand on the wheel.

darpa_escapee 10y ago

> It's the driver's responsibility to place their hands on the wheel I'd argue it's the manufacturer's responsibility that they ensure a driver using their "autopilot" feature keeps their hands on the wheel and maintains attention so I am not hit by one of their broken vehicles. Other cars that do automated driving tasks alert drivers loudly when they take their hands off the wheel, there is no reason that shouldn't be standard. Pushing the responsibility on to consumers when it's a solved problem in the industry is negligent and irresponsible on the manufacturer's part.