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About the 80 million dollars Blue (#0044cc)

11 points by vladocar 17y ago

BudVVeezer 17y ago
I love how there is no actual USAGE of the color in the article. :-P
- mseebach 17y ago
  He probably can't afford it.
- pbhjpbhj 17y ago
  TBH when I realised he wanted me to go elsewhere to discover the particular shades of colour he was talking about I quit reading. I can usually get which colour it is from the RRGGBB hex but not the shade... colour fail.
frou_dh 17y ago
Virtually no one calibrates their monitor so your carefully defined 24bit colours are going to hit eyeballs in all sorts of different forms.
- pavlov 17y ago
  Yes. Web colors are supposed to be sRGB, but hardly anyone has a monitor that displays actual sRGB. Laptops and LCDs are convenient in so many ways, but we probably had better color reproduction when CRTs and desktops dominated... Due to poor LCD quality, aging backlights and operating system configuration differences, all the parameters that affect color can vary wildly: gamma, color primaries... There's no guarantee of what #0044cc will look like, nor is there any guarantee that it would be perceptually about twice as bright as #002266. At least Mac OS X 10.6 has finally switched to "PC gamma" (2.2) by default, so that eliminates one source of endless confusion about digital color.
- sp332 17y ago
  The author didn't account for gamma correction [0] at all, so the math is meaningless. I mean, if the "Pareto Principle" numerology didn't tip you off. [0] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1141971 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1141971
- hkuo 17y ago
  Every user will not see the exact same color, however, every user will see approximately the same relativity and contrast to the color spectrum on their monitor. Even in real life, our eyes are not calibrated the same. It is the contrast and relativity that makes things stand out and fade away.
jemfinch 17y ago
That was one of the most incomprehensible essays I've read in a long time. What was he even trying to say?
- samps 17y ago
  He also uses the "<>" operator for inequality, which is unforgivable in my book.
  - fnid2 17y ago
    Lots of languages use <> for not equals.
    - pbhjpbhj 17y ago
      Lots of languages do, but not English.
      - deleted 17y ago
        [deleted]
gr366 17y ago
I'm no color theorist, but it's confusing to me why he would think the numbers for the perfect blue have to add up to 255 across all three channels. By that logic, wouldn't the perfect color white would be R:85 G:85 B:85 (or #555555)?
vladocar 17y ago
I'm perfectly aware that this article is not easy to understand. Here is small summary: In the http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL06 http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL06 the color #0044cc was indicated like the color that brings Bing 80$ million dollars I calculate the number #0033cc is better than #0044cc By accident I find out that the Bing is actually is using #0033cc not #0044cc So the question remains why the number #0044cc was used in the presentation. Is it pure author mistake or something else? Anyway there is no "perfect number" or "perfect color". Every color should be balanced properly with all other colors in order to obtain proper results.

11 points by vladocar 17y ago

BudVVeezer 17y ago

I love how there is no actual USAGE of the color in the article. :-P

mseebach 17y ago
He probably can't afford it.
pbhjpbhj 17y ago
TBH when I realised he wanted me to go elsewhere to discover the particular shades of colour he was talking about I quit reading. I can usually get which colour it is from the RRGGBB hex but not the shade... colour fail.

frou_dh 17y ago

Virtually no one calibrates their monitor so your carefully defined 24bit colours are going to hit eyeballs in all sorts of different forms.

pavlov 17y ago
Yes. Web colors are supposed to be sRGB, but hardly anyone has a monitor that displays actual sRGB. Laptops and LCDs are convenient in so many ways, but we probably had better color reproduction when CRTs and desktops dominated... Due to poor LCD quality, aging backlights and operating system configuration differences, all the parameters that affect color can vary wildly: gamma, color primaries... There's no guarantee of what #0044cc will look like, nor is there any guarantee that it would be perceptually about twice as bright as #002266. At least Mac OS X 10.6 has finally switched to "PC gamma" (2.2) by default, so that eliminates one source of endless confusion about digital color.
sp332 17y ago
The author didn't account for gamma correction [0] at all, so the math is meaningless. I mean, if the "Pareto Principle" numerology didn't tip you off. [0] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1141971 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1141971
hkuo 17y ago
Every user will not see the exact same color, however, every user will see approximately the same relativity and contrast to the color spectrum on their monitor. Even in real life, our eyes are not calibrated the same. It is the contrast and relativity that makes things stand out and fade away.

jemfinch 17y ago

That was one of the most incomprehensible essays I've read in a long time. What was he even trying to say?

samps 17y ago
He also uses the "<>" operator for inequality, which is unforgivable in my book.
- fnid2 17y ago
  Lots of languages use <> for not equals.
  - pbhjpbhj 17y ago
    Lots of languages do, but not English.
    - deleted 17y ago
      [deleted]

gr366 17y ago

I'm no color theorist, but it's confusing to me why he would think the numbers for the perfect blue have to add up to 255 across all three channels. By that logic, wouldn't the perfect color white would be R:85 G:85 B:85 (or #555555)?

vladocar 17y ago

I'm perfectly aware that this article is not easy to understand. Here is small summary: In the http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL06 http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/CL06 the color #0044cc was indicated like the color that brings Bing 80$ million dollars I calculate the number #0033cc is better than #0044cc By accident I find out that the Bing is actually is using #0033cc not #0044cc So the question remains why the number #0044cc was used in the presentation. Is it pure author mistake or something else? Anyway there is no "perfect number" or "perfect color". Every color should be balanced properly with all other colors in order to obtain proper results.