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Yeah no kidding, thousands of people die every year in Fords and no one gives a shit, 1 guy dies in a Tesla and "these cars are unsafe, run for your lives, hide

Yeah no kidding, thousands of people die every year in Fords and no one gives a shit, 1 guy dies in a Tesla and "these cars are unsafe, run for your lives, hide yo kids and yo wife, sell your stock, return your car!". I fucking hate modern media.

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refulgentis 10y ago
Did anyone actually say any of those things? Or anything coming close to those things? Or did you just invent a strawman to beat up on the media?
semi-extrinsic 10y ago
Ford sells 6-7 million cars each year, so there's going to be close to 100 million Fords driving around globally. There's a little over 100 000 Teslas. So since there is 1000x as many Fords, and assuming every Ford is just as safe as a Tesla, you quite literally get thousands of fatalities a year.
- stcredzero 10y ago
  assuming every Ford is just as safe as a Tesla, you quite literally get thousands of fatalities a year. Which is about right.
  - Twirrim 10y ago
    According to wikipedia there were 32,675 fatalities in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_i..., around 10 fatalities per 100,000 population.
    - protomyth 10y ago
      The CDC data with comparison to other ways people die in the US is at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm Table 28 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus15.pdf#019 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus15.pdf#019 is relevant to this discussion
mozumder 10y ago
There are entire car models that have had zero driver deaths: http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/29/study-chances-of-dying-in-a-car-crash-plunged-over-3-years/22521103/ http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/29/study-chan... The Tesla Model S will now never be one of them, and in fact, is now among average for fatality rates that includes motorcycles, drunks, and other dangerous factors. It's now not even among the class of luxury cars that have very low driver deaths. Right now self-driving cars are far too dangerous for public use.
- sliverstorm 10y ago
  Wow, there's a lot of factors at play there I'm sure but the engineering teams behind those models should feel very proud indeed.
- therestisgone 10y ago
  >The Tesla Model S will now never be one of them Which version? There is 60, 60D, 70, 70D, 75, 75D, 80, 80D, 85, 85D, 90 and 90D so which one are you talking about? Tesla calls their cars Model S the same way Apple calls their laptops Macbook.
kmonsen 10y ago
Since I have not seen any of these, can you actually point to large media outlets saying these things?
malz 10y ago
It seems newsworthy that the world's first robotic car, specifically designed to see and react to road conditions, drives into the side of a truck.
- M4v3R 10y ago
  It was the other way around - the truck drove into the side of Tesla, which didn't react because it didn't saw the truck with its cameras because of combination of brightly lit sky and truck white color.

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refulgentis 10y ago

Did anyone actually say any of those things? Or anything coming close to those things? Or did you just invent a strawman to beat up on the media?

semi-extrinsic 10y ago

Ford sells 6-7 million cars each year, so there's going to be close to 100 million Fords driving around globally. There's a little over 100 000 Teslas. So since there is 1000x as many Fords, and assuming every Ford is just as safe as a Tesla, you quite literally get thousands of fatalities a year.

stcredzero 10y ago
assuming every Ford is just as safe as a Tesla, you quite literally get thousands of fatalities a year. Which is about right.
- Twirrim 10y ago
  According to wikipedia there were 32,675 fatalities in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_i..., around 10 fatalities per 100,000 population.
  - protomyth 10y ago
    The CDC data with comparison to other ways people die in the US is at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm Table 28 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus15.pdf#019 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus15.pdf#019 is relevant to this discussion

mozumder 10y ago

There are entire car models that have had zero driver deaths: http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/29/study-chances-of-dying-in-a-car-crash-plunged-over-3-years/22521103/ http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/29/study-chan... The Tesla Model S will now never be one of them, and in fact, is now among average for fatality rates that includes motorcycles, drunks, and other dangerous factors. It's now not even among the class of luxury cars that have very low driver deaths. Right now self-driving cars are far too dangerous for public use.

sliverstorm 10y ago
Wow, there's a lot of factors at play there I'm sure but the engineering teams behind those models should feel very proud indeed.
therestisgone 10y ago
>The Tesla Model S will now never be one of them Which version? There is 60, 60D, 70, 70D, 75, 75D, 80, 80D, 85, 85D, 90 and 90D so which one are you talking about? Tesla calls their cars Model S the same way Apple calls their laptops Macbook.

kmonsen 10y ago

Since I have not seen any of these, can you actually point to large media outlets saying these things?

malz 10y ago

It seems newsworthy that the world's first robotic car, specifically designed to see and react to road conditions, drives into the side of a truck.

M4v3R 10y ago
It was the other way around - the truck drove into the side of Tesla, which didn't react because it didn't saw the truck with its cameras because of combination of brightly lit sky and truck white color.