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And yet try only evidence that the Norse ever made it beyond Newfoundland is pseudo science (or as Samuel Eliot Morrison said, 'scandiknavery'). Even if they di

And yet try only evidence that the Norse ever made it beyond Newfoundland is pseudo science (or as Samuel Eliot Morrison said, 'scandiknavery'). Even if they did, it had zero impact on the future of the continent.

Bromskloss 10y ago
> Even if they did, it had zero impact on the future of the continent. What does that have to do with anything?
ocschwar 10y ago
Not so. At L'anse Aux Meadows they found samples of plant matter that only grows on the mainland.
lb1lf 10y ago
-If nothing else, it may suggest that you claimed independence from the wrong colonial power. We'll come over to incorporate you in Greater Norway any day, now. ;-)
- dbcurtis 10y ago
  I'm thinking you already have a beachhead in Minnesota. But at the time, wasn't Norway a colony of Sweden? Or was it Denmark then? I'm fuzzy on when the switch happened. In any case, if you do take over, at least then we'll be able to get decent lefse in California.
  - lb1lf 10y ago
    First of all - there is no such thing as decent lefse. Back in Viking times, the nation state as we know it today didn't exist - but Norway was under Denmark between 1387 (methinks) and 1814, when we declared independence only to find ourselves handed over to the Swedes as war booty. Then in 1905 we told the Swedes where they could stuff their union. They promptly did.
    - e12e 10y ago
      I'm a little shocked that no one's pointed out that Harald Hårfarge is the name of the king that's credited with making Norway one nation (some bitter people claim this isn't true just because it was made up in the 1300s, some 300 years after Harald died). Fitting that it is the name of the ship that's sent to re-capture Vinland.
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haukur 10y ago
For those interested, there are written records about these voyages dating back to the 13th and 14th century. The events took place some 300 years earlier, however. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Erik_the_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Erik_the_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_sagas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_sagas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_saga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_saga

Bromskloss 10y ago

> Even if they did, it had zero impact on the future of the continent. What does that have to do with anything?

ocschwar 10y ago

Not so. At L'anse Aux Meadows they found samples of plant matter that only grows on the mainland.

lb1lf 10y ago

-If nothing else, it may suggest that you claimed independence from the wrong colonial power. We'll come over to incorporate you in Greater Norway any day, now. ;-)

dbcurtis 10y ago
I'm thinking you already have a beachhead in Minnesota. But at the time, wasn't Norway a colony of Sweden? Or was it Denmark then? I'm fuzzy on when the switch happened. In any case, if you do take over, at least then we'll be able to get decent lefse in California.
- lb1lf 10y ago
  First of all - there is no such thing as decent lefse. Back in Viking times, the nation state as we know it today didn't exist - but Norway was under Denmark between 1387 (methinks) and 1814, when we declared independence only to find ourselves handed over to the Swedes as war booty. Then in 1905 we told the Swedes where they could stuff their union. They promptly did.
  - e12e 10y ago
    I'm a little shocked that no one's pointed out that Harald Hårfarge is the name of the king that's credited with making Norway one nation (some bitter people claim this isn't true just because it was made up in the 1300s, some 300 years after Harald died). Fitting that it is the name of the ship that's sent to re-capture Vinland.

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haukur 10y ago

For those interested, there are written records about these voyages dating back to the 13th and 14th century. The events took place some 300 years earlier, however. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Erik_the_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_of_Erik_the_Red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_sagas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland_sagas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_saga https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_saga