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the UK is still going to be controlled by Europe No it won't, as the EU has become a legislative body governing aspects of people's lives in the UK and it will

the UK is still going to be controlled by Europe No it won't, as the EU has become a legislative body governing aspects of people's lives in the UK and it will no longer be the case.

gpvos 10y ago
If there is still a trade agreement between the UK and the EU, then lots of things in the UK will still be controlled by the EU, as the EU is larger and will make the trade rules. (Also, the EU is quite bureaucratic and thus not so flexible, so it will not be very willing to make a special agreement with the UK. It's EEA, Canada-style, WTO-style, or nothing.) If you don't want the EU controlling any aspect of the UK, you can't have a trade agreement.
- wmil 10y ago
  Right now small businesses in the UK that don't export at all have to comply with all EU rules. If the UK leaves then they won't. So the effective influence will be greatly reduced.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
    Hurray! We will at last have our crooked cucumbers and carrots, that the EU has for so long cruelly deprived us of!
    - internaut 10y ago
      And the straight bananas, don't forget about them. At last a free market where the curvature of the banana is subject to consumer choice. I myself prefer the straight banana for optimizing my fruit salad.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    That's assuming that the UK doesn't establish similar rules. Many of the EU regulations are designed to help consumers e.g. data protection.
    - wmil 10y ago
      They also push impossible energy efficiency standards for home appliances. So the EU bans toasters and kettles that work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kettle-and-toaster-crackdown-after-brexit-vote2/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kett... Vacuum cleaners that work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11047127/EU-rules-against-powerful-vacuum-cleaners-ban-best-models-Which-warns.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11047127... Some of the other bizarre rules... It's illegal for bottled water makers to claim it's effective against dehydration: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/... They tried to ban jugs of olive oil at restaurants: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10064787/EU-to-ban-olive-oil-jugs-from-restaurants.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10064787... A salmon smoker had to re-do all package to notify people that it contained fish: http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/05/03/476064362/backing-brexit-a-salmon-smokehouse-says-its-been-swimming-upstream http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/05/03/476064362/b... There's just a lot of bs. Also the common agriculture policy and common fishing policy haven't been great for the UK.
  - tonyedgecombe 10y ago
    A lot of those rules came from the UK in the first place.
imtringued 10y ago
If you want a trade agreement with the EU then yes it will govern aspects of people's lives in the UK because the majority of EU laws are trade regulations.
- slv77 10y ago
  In a deflationary environment countries that run trade deficits make the rules. Germany is currently exporting its deflation (and its effects) to the UK via its trade surplus which the Bank of England then has to mitigate. At this point severe trade restrictions with the UK would likely mean even more severe imbalances inside the EU and the eventual exit of Italy, Spain and Portugal.

the UK is still going to be controlled by Europe No it won't, as the EU has become a legislative body governing aspects of people's lives in the UK and it will no longer be the case.

gpvos 10y ago

If there is still a trade agreement between the UK and the EU, then lots of things in the UK will still be controlled by the EU, as the EU is larger and will make the trade rules. (Also, the EU is quite bureaucratic and thus not so flexible, so it will not be very willing to make a special agreement with the UK. It's EEA, Canada-style, WTO-style, or nothing.) If you don't want the EU controlling any aspect of the UK, you can't have a trade agreement.

wmil 10y ago
Right now small businesses in the UK that don't export at all have to comply with all EU rules. If the UK leaves then they won't. So the effective influence will be greatly reduced.
- YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
  Hurray! We will at last have our crooked cucumbers and carrots, that the EU has for so long cruelly deprived us of!
  - internaut 10y ago
    And the straight bananas, don't forget about them. At last a free market where the curvature of the banana is subject to consumer choice. I myself prefer the straight banana for optimizing my fruit salad.
- threeseed 10y ago
  That's assuming that the UK doesn't establish similar rules. Many of the EU regulations are designed to help consumers e.g. data protection.
  - wmil 10y ago
    They also push impossible energy efficiency standards for home appliances. So the EU bans toasters and kettles that work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kettle-and-toaster-crackdown-after-brexit-vote2/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/eu-to-launch-kett... Vacuum cleaners that work: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11047127/EU-rules-against-powerful-vacuum-cleaners-ban-best-models-Which-warns.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11047127... Some of the other bizarre rules... It's illegal for bottled water makers to claim it's effective against dehydration: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/... They tried to ban jugs of olive oil at restaurants: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10064787/EU-to-ban-olive-oil-jugs-from-restaurants.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10064787... A salmon smoker had to re-do all package to notify people that it contained fish: http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/05/03/476064362/backing-brexit-a-salmon-smokehouse-says-its-been-swimming-upstream http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/05/03/476064362/b... There's just a lot of bs. Also the common agriculture policy and common fishing policy haven't been great for the UK.
- tonyedgecombe 10y ago
  A lot of those rules came from the UK in the first place.

imtringued 10y ago

If you want a trade agreement with the EU then yes it will govern aspects of people's lives in the UK because the majority of EU laws are trade regulations.

slv77 10y ago
In a deflationary environment countries that run trade deficits make the rules. Germany is currently exporting its deflation (and its effects) to the UK via its trade surplus which the Bank of England then has to mitigate. At this point severe trade restrictions with the UK would likely mean even more severe imbalances inside the EU and the eventual exit of Italy, Spain and Portugal.