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Call me silly, but self-proclaimed hotness (your sig*) might work very well in WoW, but I imagine less so here. If I were you I'd change it. (sig: Hot + Geek

by romland 17y ago

Call me silly, but self-proclaimed hotness (your sig*) might work very well in WoW, but I imagine less so here. If I were you I'd change it. (sig: Hot + Geek = me)

jgrahamc 17y ago
Agree. If you are going to make a claim like that at least post a photo. Or preferably don't make that claim.
- freddier 17y ago
  Well, a simple search turns this out: http://tinyurl.com/yljrtuc http://tinyurl.com/yljrtuc So it's fair to say the signature may be correct.
  - vijaydev 17y ago
    how did you get hold of that?
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      Check signature, do a whois, do a search on the persons name, take image of matching name from Facebook. Not that hard but pretty tasteless to post it. On HN you might as well wear your identity out front, most people here have graduated in the 'basic internet tool use', unless you make a real effort at staying incognito it is very hard to not drop little bits of information, the best way to stay anonymous is to be very quiet.
      - gridspy 17y ago
        Exactly. It is much better to just write things that you are proud of and then sign them with your real name.
  - rewind 17y ago
    Yeah, that was WAY more appropriate. I'm sure all the women around here (and hopefully most of the men) are just shaking their heads right now. Unbelievable.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    There are reasons plenty of women on HN keep their gender 'to themselves', one of them is that it is all to easy to get stalkers giving you a 'certain kind of attention' as one phrased it. If someone does not go out of their way to post their picture, why would you ? Private stuff should be revealed by the person themselves, unless they're scamming or something like that, then I have absolutely no problem with it. But even then, a picture ?
    - onetimetoken 17y ago
      I fully agree with the sentiment that inspires your statement. However, this thread highlights a fundamental property of a networked life: privacy is dead, there is only identity management. You only need whois and google/facebook to find the data in this case. Both are instances of seemingly disconnected and "local" data points (as in nobody without a real interest would ever look for these things), which, chained, intersected, etc. can reveal a ton of information about a person, all of which was volunteered by the person in question. The NYT had a piece on "human-flesh search" recently, and 4chan raids have been well-known for a while. The point being, that once you release something in the wild, it's there, and accessible. Ethically, is it fair game to mine it (like people search engines, for example, do)? It should give us collective pause to think - why do we get all those web services like facebook, gmail, twitter, etc. for free? Without even noticing it we are whoring out our privacy and intimate patterns. Google has two customer groups: users and advertisers - and advertisers bring in the money, users are there to maximize advertiser and google ROI - e.g. Google allows pure-ad parked pages, they give tips on "blending" ads to increase CTRs etc. If harnessed properly, these things can be useful, but it requires a mindset and workflow not entirely dissimilar to those of spies or high-end criminals - controlling information by selective disclosure, identity segmentation, disinformation, anonymization, etc. - not for sinister purposes, mind you, but simply to guard what we traditionally call privacy. written with a one time account
      - jacquesm 17y ago
        > written with a one time account Smart move, but I'll bet you I can still identify you. One really big eye opener for me how subtle this problem really is was this article, I've just posted it as a separate submission: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1197072 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1197072
vimalg2 17y ago
Perhaps her real name is kinda hard to use as a handle. Hint: whois query. All the best, woman.
rewind 17y ago
Her sig? Really??? You're entitled to your opinion, but I see no reason to take this thread in that direction based on her posting. It wasn't even a COMMENT that she made; it's just her sig.
cglee 17y ago
Ok, you asked for it: you're being silly. As far as I'm concerned, she can post whatever she wants in her sig, including how hot and geeky she is.
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romland 17y ago
I never intended for this comment to get to this level of ugliness. It doesn't really matter now, but my intention with it was merely meant as a piece of advice rather than an attack on OP's persona. I realize this is bordering towards something that might still be slightly taboo, but over the years online I have developed a slight allergy towards women (or others pretending to be women) who use the very fact that they are a woman as a leverage to get something rather than by merit. And hold on before you judge me. My comment came from the fact that OP might not want to come across as that type of person here or anywhere, in my eyes, or anyone elses. So it was a friendly advice. But when all is said and done, this got way off topic + a bit nasty and for that I apologize.
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- geekbabe 17y ago
  I do not think you should apologize. I didn't think much before filling that section. It would indeed hurt me if I come across as that type of women. So, thanks for the advice.

by romland 17y ago

Call me silly, but self-proclaimed hotness (your sig*) might work very well in WoW, but I imagine less so here. If I were you I'd change it. (sig: Hot + Geek = me)

jgrahamc 17y ago

Agree. If you are going to make a claim like that at least post a photo. Or preferably don't make that claim.

freddier 17y ago
Well, a simple search turns this out: http://tinyurl.com/yljrtuc http://tinyurl.com/yljrtuc So it's fair to say the signature may be correct.
- vijaydev 17y ago
  how did you get hold of that?
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Check signature, do a whois, do a search on the persons name, take image of matching name from Facebook. Not that hard but pretty tasteless to post it. On HN you might as well wear your identity out front, most people here have graduated in the 'basic internet tool use', unless you make a real effort at staying incognito it is very hard to not drop little bits of information, the best way to stay anonymous is to be very quiet.
    - gridspy 17y ago
      Exactly. It is much better to just write things that you are proud of and then sign them with your real name.
- rewind 17y ago
  Yeah, that was WAY more appropriate. I'm sure all the women around here (and hopefully most of the men) are just shaking their heads right now. Unbelievable.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  There are reasons plenty of women on HN keep their gender 'to themselves', one of them is that it is all to easy to get stalkers giving you a 'certain kind of attention' as one phrased it. If someone does not go out of their way to post their picture, why would you ? Private stuff should be revealed by the person themselves, unless they're scamming or something like that, then I have absolutely no problem with it. But even then, a picture ?
  - onetimetoken 17y ago
    I fully agree with the sentiment that inspires your statement. However, this thread highlights a fundamental property of a networked life: privacy is dead, there is only identity management. You only need whois and google/facebook to find the data in this case. Both are instances of seemingly disconnected and "local" data points (as in nobody without a real interest would ever look for these things), which, chained, intersected, etc. can reveal a ton of information about a person, all of which was volunteered by the person in question. The NYT had a piece on "human-flesh search" recently, and 4chan raids have been well-known for a while. The point being, that once you release something in the wild, it's there, and accessible. Ethically, is it fair game to mine it (like people search engines, for example, do)? It should give us collective pause to think - why do we get all those web services like facebook, gmail, twitter, etc. for free? Without even noticing it we are whoring out our privacy and intimate patterns. Google has two customer groups: users and advertisers - and advertisers bring in the money, users are there to maximize advertiser and google ROI - e.g. Google allows pure-ad parked pages, they give tips on "blending" ads to increase CTRs etc. If harnessed properly, these things can be useful, but it requires a mindset and workflow not entirely dissimilar to those of spies or high-end criminals - controlling information by selective disclosure, identity segmentation, disinformation, anonymization, etc. - not for sinister purposes, mind you, but simply to guard what we traditionally call privacy. written with a one time account
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      > written with a one time account Smart move, but I'll bet you I can still identify you. One really big eye opener for me how subtle this problem really is was this article, I've just posted it as a separate submission: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1197072 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1197072

vimalg2 17y ago

Perhaps her real name is kinda hard to use as a handle. Hint: whois query. All the best, woman.

rewind 17y ago

Her sig? Really??? You're entitled to your opinion, but I see no reason to take this thread in that direction based on her posting. It wasn't even a COMMENT that she made; it's just her sig.

cglee 17y ago

Ok, you asked for it: you're being silly. As far as I'm concerned, she can post whatever she wants in her sig, including how hot and geeky she is.

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romland 17y ago

I never intended for this comment to get to this level of ugliness. It doesn't really matter now, but my intention with it was merely meant as a piece of advice rather than an attack on OP's persona. I realize this is bordering towards something that might still be slightly taboo, but over the years online I have developed a slight allergy towards women (or others pretending to be women) who use the very fact that they are a woman as a leverage to get something rather than by merit. And hold on before you judge me. My comment came from the fact that OP might not want to come across as that type of person here or anywhere, in my eyes, or anyone elses. So it was a friendly advice. But when all is said and done, this got way off topic + a bit nasty and for that I apologize.

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geekbabe 17y ago
I do not think you should apologize. I didn't think much before filling that section. It would indeed hurt me if I come across as that type of women. So, thanks for the advice.