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What if there was an EBay like action site where you couldn't just sign up, and rather someone had to "vouch" for you? When fraud starts happening, you can see
by Pyxl101 10y ago
What if there was an EBay like action site where you couldn't just sign up, and rather someone had to "vouch" for you? When fraud starts happening, you can see who vouched them in and shut down the network. If people start selling vouches online, then you suspend both them and the person who had the bad judgment to vouch them in originally. (maybe they can keep using the site, but not vouch, etc.)
The site would also collect identifying information about everyone who transacts while using it. Maybe phone number, or driver license photo. You are not allowed to have more than one account, although you can have multiple "personas" if you wish, each with their own ratings. (but creating multiple personas cannot fool site anti-abuse staff, who can all obviously see the same account behind it) Creating an account is hard. The site would employ advanced protections against account takeover.
Whenever you buy and sell from someone, perhaps you can see the "7 degrees of Kevin Bacon" style interpersonal connections that link you to them via vouches. If fraud happens, it makes all of your connections look bad, and there would be an incentive for them to shun you, if they care about retaining their access to the site. When fraudsters get onto the platform, you can always trace their vouches back to the "bad apple" who showed poor judgment and began inviting the wrong certain people. Indeed, perhaps in order to retain access to the platform overtime, you have to keep getting vouches every once in a while.
Big sites would not use these policies since they would invoice friction on purchases in result in lower conversion. But perhaps there is a niche somewhere for a highly trusted online auction house.
I wonder how far a system like this could go in stamping out fraud online. It seems like the problem with fraudsters is that they can always keep coming back with new accounts that everyone is forced to treat with the certain default degree of trust, and then the fraudsters exploit that. If you made it difficult for each person in the world to have more than one account on the service, then anyone engaging in repeat fraud would very quickly stand out as such. (As many personas as you want, but only one account)
- derekp7 10y agoThis sounds like something that social network sites such as FB could get into.
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- jpindar 10y agoOr nextdoor. Which reminds me, I want to get more of my neighbors to join that.
- DrScump 10y agoFB? You mean, the place that puts counterfeiters as both ads and "Suggested Posts" in my feed daily?
- chaz6 10y agoFacebook already lets you post for-sale ads in a group if it set up for it, it even reminds you from time to time to take down your ad if you have sold it. They do not take any commission for it and rely on you to you use your common sense as if you were selling in a newspaper.
- seanp2k2 10y agoFYI, this is exactly how the better torrent sites work.
- DiabloD3 10y agoYeah, I was about to say "so, what.cd for auctions?" I'd use it.
- VLM 10y agoCan't have both sides simultaneously, both a marketplace with too many scammers requiring a complicated solution AND A clean marketplace. Or phrased another way, its like the gun control problem where the only people following the gun control laws are the non-criminals you have no need to fear, and the people who don't play by the rules are the only source of problems.
- xkcd-sucks 10y agoIt sounds like new users would have to rub a bunch of bots just to start making their first sales, leading to high demand for a user friendly botting ecosystem