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I'm moving back to Google Zurich. The male/female ratio is a huge issue there, so it's good to bring a girlfriend, but cost of living was never a problem. Taxe

by xiphias 10y ago

I'm moving back to Google Zurich. The male/female ratio is a huge issue there, so it's good to bring a girlfriend, but cost of living was never a problem. Taxes are minimal, salary at Google Zurich is huge.

zerr 10y ago
Glassdoors shows pretty average. What do you call huge?
- hobo_mark 10y ago
  In most of the world (and certainly Europe), even barely touching or crossing six figures is virtually unheard of.
  - randomsearch 10y ago
    Facebook average inc. bonuses £210K In London last year: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/Facebook-dishes-210-000-average-pay-London-staff-putting-remuneration-par-banks.html http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/F...
    - zerr 10y ago
      In London, Google was paying GBP 70-80K, same for Skype/Microsoft.
      - jast 10y ago
        That seems low for London since it's also a city with high living costs... Do they give any other extra benefits, or what about bonus/stock?
        sgt101 10y ago
        Surely there is a big range of salary from intern -> managing director? Does "the mean" matter in this discussion?
        zerr 10y ago
        That was for experienced engineers.
      - dekhn 10y ago
        I think you must be referring to base pay, not bonus or equity, which is a very large part of total compensation.
  - zerr 10y ago
    Yes, but Switzerland is a special case in general. Even post-docs (research assistants) at academic institutions have near six-figure salaries (CHF 85K, in quite theoretic field). A lot of non-hype tech companies provide six-figure salaries for engineers. I can't imagine any non-junior engineer to relocate to Zurich for anything below that.
- xiphias 10y ago
  Glassdoor doesn't look at the tax differences (use a tax calculator), the fact that Google gives you 8.5% pension that you can use either to buy a flat (I have done it from my Swiss pension money), create a company or use it in emergency, and also you can take it out (after paying taxes) if you leave the country. Also I don't believe the 200k pound figure for Facebook London as a median compensation package. Can somebody confirm it?
  - zerr 10y ago
    No, I meant pretty average/standard within Switzerland, compared to other [non-hyped] Swiss companies.
hobo_mark 10y ago
You mean there's an imbalance at Google or in the city in general? Any idea why?
krzyk 10y ago
My colleague worked in Zurich for 6 years, he didn't even try Google because he was already making comparable money in other company, so I would call salary in Zurich as "huge", just average for Zurich.

by xiphias 10y ago

zerr 10y ago

Glassdoors shows pretty average. What do you call huge?

hobo_mark 10y ago
In most of the world (and certainly Europe), even barely touching or crossing six figures is virtually unheard of.
- randomsearch 10y ago
  Facebook average inc. bonuses £210K In London last year: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/Facebook-dishes-210-000-average-pay-London-staff-putting-remuneration-par-banks.html http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3268356/F...
  - zerr 10y ago
    In London, Google was paying GBP 70-80K, same for Skype/Microsoft.
    - jast 10y ago
      That seems low for London since it's also a city with high living costs... Do they give any other extra benefits, or what about bonus/stock?
      - sgt101 10y ago
        Surely there is a big range of salary from intern -> managing director? Does "the mean" matter in this discussion?
        zerr 10y ago
        That was for experienced engineers.
    - dekhn 10y ago
      I think you must be referring to base pay, not bonus or equity, which is a very large part of total compensation.
- zerr 10y ago
  Yes, but Switzerland is a special case in general. Even post-docs (research assistants) at academic institutions have near six-figure salaries (CHF 85K, in quite theoretic field). A lot of non-hype tech companies provide six-figure salaries for engineers. I can't imagine any non-junior engineer to relocate to Zurich for anything below that.
xiphias 10y ago
Glassdoor doesn't look at the tax differences (use a tax calculator), the fact that Google gives you 8.5% pension that you can use either to buy a flat (I have done it from my Swiss pension money), create a company or use it in emergency, and also you can take it out (after paying taxes) if you leave the country. Also I don't believe the 200k pound figure for Facebook London as a median compensation package. Can somebody confirm it?
- zerr 10y ago
  No, I meant pretty average/standard within Switzerland, compared to other [non-hyped] Swiss companies.

hobo_mark 10y ago

You mean there's an imbalance at Google or in the city in general? Any idea why?

krzyk 10y ago

My colleague worked in Zurich for 6 years, he didn't even try Google because he was already making comparable money in other company, so I would call salary in Zurich as "huge", just average for Zurich.