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They did introduce a new file system - it just wasn't part of the keynote.

by pilif 10y ago

sirn 10y ago
Huh, this is true. Now this is super exciting. > Session 701 Introducing Apple File System > The Apple File System (APFS) is the next-generation file system designed to scale from an Apple Watch to a Mac Pro. APFS is optimized for Flash/SSD storage, and engineered with encryption as a primary feature. Learn about APFS benefits versus HFS+ and how to make sure your file system code is compatible.
- izacus 10y ago
  It indeed is. Now dare I hope for PowerNap APIs? ;)
jaxondu 10y ago
The doc https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/APFS_Guide/Introduction/Introduction.html https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/docum...
- tehabe 10y ago
  Apple lists a few limitations for APFS, one being: "Filenames are currently case-sensitive only." My thought: hey, that is a feature!
  - derefr 10y ago
    It seems phrased in the particularly Apple-y style that usually means "we're seeing whether we're allowed to throw this legacy feature away or whether something will force us to put support for it back in."
    - ascagnel_ 10y ago
      More accurately: "we still need to see how badly this breaks Photoshop and iTunes or their builds."
      - tehabe 10y ago
        Years ago, I used HFSX on my machine but I don't remember that iTunes broke because of that. A lot of other things broke though.
  - DasIch 10y ago
    HFS+ can be configured to be both case-sensitive and not (the default). So in that sense it's a regression.
    - MBCook 10y ago
      As I seem to remember running in case sensitive mode broke tons and tons of apps that made assumptions based on the history of HFS+ being case insensitive. I'd be very interested to know if they run case-sensitive by default are not in the final release.
- tehabe 10y ago
  I finally understand a bug on OSX which bugged me for a long time. When I stored a file with the name äöü on and HFS+ volume and wanted to access this file via ä[tab] is would work. It was eventually fixed. But know I know why this happened. HFS+ normalise the letter and ä becomes two characters, the a and the umlaut dots. And bash didn't know that or didn't care, so it so no file with an ä but with an a at the beginning. Is this analysis correct? I so hope that APFS will be a little bit more sane.

They did introduce a new file system - it just wasn't part of the keynote.

by pilif 10y ago

They did introduce a new file system - it just wasn't part of the keynote.

sirn 10y ago

Huh, this is true. Now this is super exciting. > Session 701 Introducing Apple File System > The Apple File System (APFS) is the next-generation file system designed to scale from an Apple Watch to a Mac Pro. APFS is optimized for Flash/SSD storage, and engineered with encryption as a primary feature. Learn about APFS benefits versus HFS+ and how to make sure your file system code is compatible.

izacus 10y ago
It indeed is. Now dare I hope for PowerNap APIs? ;)

jaxondu 10y ago

The doc https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/APFS_Guide/Introduction/Introduction.html https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/docum...

tehabe 10y ago
Apple lists a few limitations for APFS, one being: "Filenames are currently case-sensitive only." My thought: hey, that is a feature!
- derefr 10y ago
  It seems phrased in the particularly Apple-y style that usually means "we're seeing whether we're allowed to throw this legacy feature away or whether something will force us to put support for it back in."
  - ascagnel_ 10y ago
    More accurately: "we still need to see how badly this breaks Photoshop and iTunes or their builds."
    - tehabe 10y ago
      Years ago, I used HFSX on my machine but I don't remember that iTunes broke because of that. A lot of other things broke though.
- DasIch 10y ago
  HFS+ can be configured to be both case-sensitive and not (the default). So in that sense it's a regression.
  - MBCook 10y ago
    As I seem to remember running in case sensitive mode broke tons and tons of apps that made assumptions based on the history of HFS+ being case insensitive. I'd be very interested to know if they run case-sensitive by default are not in the final release.
tehabe 10y ago
I finally understand a bug on OSX which bugged me for a long time. When I stored a file with the name äöü on and HFS+ volume and wanted to access this file via ä[tab] is would work. It was eventually fixed. But know I know why this happened. HFS+ normalise the letter and ä becomes two characters, the a and the umlaut dots. And bash didn't know that or didn't care, so it so no file with an ä but with an a at the beginning. Is this analysis correct? I so hope that APFS will be a little bit more sane.