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The Olympics actually gave up on sex testing once (not sure if they started again or not) because it turns out trying to lump people into two categories is an e

The Olympics actually gave up on sex testing once (not sure if they started again or not) because it turns out trying to lump people into two categories is an exercise nonsensical exclusion. Also both historically and currently there have been various category beyond "two" that have had legal distinctions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender And of course we've got shit going on right now in the USA like http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-north-carolina-bathrooms-20160601-snap-story.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-north-carolina-bathrooms... where that sexual dimorphism (thanks in some cases to modern science and in some cases to the the non-binary nature of human genetics) where that "di"-morphism (morphism meaning shape or appearance) directly contradicts the theoretical intent of some law or another.

nostrebored 10y ago
An exercise in nonsensical exclusion? Men taking testosterone blockers still have more testosterone than women at the third standard deviation. There are skeletal differences in men that create an advantage in a number of high-impact sports. "Third gender" is bullshit precisely because it tries to create a preexisting dichotomy that doesn't exist. I'm not a masculine caricature. My wife is not a feminine caricature. The people you meet day to day aren't walking gendered cliches.
- Avshalom 10y ago
  You wanted examples where genitals where an insufficient distinction for the legal system? You're free to argue about why they were insufficient or whether they should be/have-been sufficient but there they are.
  - nostrebored 10y ago
    Mmm. I moved the goalposts in my second reply to 'where sexual dimorphism is insufficient'. Sorry if that created confusion. I still maintain that genitalia are a very good heuristic for determining someone's sex.

nostrebored 10y ago

An exercise in nonsensical exclusion? Men taking testosterone blockers still have more testosterone than women at the third standard deviation. There are skeletal differences in men that create an advantage in a number of high-impact sports. "Third gender" is bullshit precisely because it tries to create a preexisting dichotomy that doesn't exist. I'm not a masculine caricature. My wife is not a feminine caricature. The people you meet day to day aren't walking gendered cliches.

Avshalom 10y ago
You wanted examples where genitals where an insufficient distinction for the legal system? You're free to argue about why they were insufficient or whether they should be/have-been sufficient but there they are.
- nostrebored 10y ago
  Mmm. I moved the goalposts in my second reply to 'where sexual dimorphism is insufficient'. Sorry if that created confusion. I still maintain that genitalia are a very good heuristic for determining someone's sex.