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Apple announces iOS 10
- subway 10y agoiOS X, if you will.
- reacharavindh 10y agoAccessing everything on lock screen? So, my GF can see my app activity and pretty do all the things without my authentication? Craig touts specifically that we don't need to press the home button for all this to work...
- infogulch 10y agoSurely you'll be able to disable it in settings.
- ceejayoz 10y agoiOS already shows stuff like message previews on the lock screen, with the option to hide their contents. I don't see any reason to believe they won't have a similar option here.
- Razengan 10y agoI'm sure you'll be able to decide the amount of stuff you want accessible from the lock screen, as you already get to do now, but you may have more pressing concerns regarding your partner's trust.
- reacharavindh 10y agoOh, I used the example of my GF responding to messages/viewing notifications to essentially bring out my privacy concerns. Not that I don't trust my partner :) I must have disabled this feature when I installed iOS 9 and being unnecessarily surprised at this now.
- throwanem 10y agoUh, most of us don't have that use case to worry about, but notification center and lock screen settings have our backs when we do. (Which I did, in the lead-up to the divorce. No trouble at all with phone opsec, which was nice, because as anyone who's been through it knows, divorce means enough trouble all by itself without overly helpful electronics adding more.)
- marricks 10y agoAlways wondered if they'd stall at iOS 10 and just start moving up minor versions like macOS. 10.1 etc. Another change that doesn't make a ton of sense but I guess looks nice.
- mhurron 10y agoCan I have Siri answer with the speaker yet?
- sidcool 10y agoA lot of iOS 10 features are Google inspired.
- overcast 10y agoDoes that matter for some reason?
- sidcool 10y agoIt does, because when Google did it in past, and they did, Apple zealots ripped on them.
- overcast 10y agoSaying something is valid because someone else did it, doesn't mean anything.
- JustSomeNobody 10y agoAnd right now the Google zealots are doing what? I swear it's going to take forever for the last half dozen zealots on either side to just shut up.
- jayd16 10y agoIf you're interested in features that might bring users to the platform it matters.
- clord 10y ago... but done with proper consideration for privacy.
- sidcool 10y agoIndeed!! No doubt. The engineering effort to do all the computations locally on device is monumental.
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- orbitur 10y agoHoly moly, Apple is very aware of the competing chat apps. iMessage looks amazing and they packed a lot of features in there, but I wonder how they're going to make it all easily discoverable.
- manmal 10y agoLook at Snapchat, it's a mess and still people figure out how to turn their selfie video into a bloodthirsty rabbit.
- wodenokoto 10y agoThe problem is not discoverability, the problem is certainty that the counter part can receive these things. I already find the SMS app on iOS confusing. Am I sending a paid SMS or a free message? I dare say one of the major advantages of messaging apps in general is the certainty that the receiver will receive the message in the same shape as the sender send it. With MMS you never know if the picture can be opened, and people just gave up.
- dcgoss 10y agoGreen bubble = SMS. Blue bubble = iMessage (data only, doesn't count towards text limits). I would assume the app would only let you use the new features with other iMessage users.
- matt-attack 10y agoEven better, you can tell before you click "Send" whether the message will be green or blue, by looking at the color of the send button. Kinda nice, you can actually just enter any phone number in the "To:" field and wait a second, and check the color of the button. This will tell you instantly whether a given phone number is for an iPhone or not. Kinda neat.
- zanny 10y agoIts almost like SMS is an awful messaging protocol nobody should be using.
- prrrnd 10y agoAm i the only one thinking that Steve Jobs would have refused most of the things that were introduced this morning? Apple sure has changed over the years.
- losteric 10y agoHe wouldn't have refused them, but these would have been filler items or unannounced tweaks that people just discover as they use the product. I'm not surprised we're seeing diminishing returns on smart phone UX though...
- thisisdallas 10y agoNo, you aren't the only one. In my opinion, Apple has gone from a mixed of innovation + reaction + improved quality to mainly just reaction.
- throwanem 10y agoMaybe not. Does it matter? Steve Jobs, brilliant though he was, has been dead for a while now, and shows every indication of staying that way into the indefinite future. While that doesn't necessarily mean he has been unable to stay up on the last few years' worth of change and innovation in the mobile space, it does mean that whatever unique insights he's been able to derive from same are not in a place where they can do Apple's designers and engineers much good.
- mattkevan 10y agoThis is the exact right answer to 'it's not what Steve would have done'. Who cares what Steve would have done? He doesn't, not any more. Anyone who says this is basically just complaining about something they don't like, and invoking a ghost to back up the argument.
- andrewla 10y agoLooks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-app volume, other times it just seems to go into a black hole) - easier access to app settings for the app you're using (things like privacy settings and notification settings and revoking/re-allowing privileges (like camera access, etc.); maybe context-sensitive pull-up or pull-down things? I like that OS controls this, not the app, just need a better way to navigate to it. - turn off buzzing and booping when I plug in a charger, and maybe some sort of wireless charging thing if the technology is where it needs to be yet - stop showing album art on the lock screen (or make it optional) - more uniformity on how lock screen notifications are acknowledged and dismissed -- sometimes there's an 'x' in the swipe-over, sometimes actions, sometimes just pressing the notification does something The only feature that seems interesting to me is the voicemail transcription; previous services I've used for this have been pretty terrible, but hopefully this is better. With Marshmallow's security model (of run-time grantable and revokable permissions) Android has become a lot more attractive to me -- my biggest pain point in using Android devices has always been the nightmare of looking at what an app wants in order to install.
- filereaper 10y agoAnecdotal, but I've found Siri to be quite helpful with Car Play, along with Google's equivalent (can't remember its marketing name) in Android Auto. Just drive along, push to issue command, and "Siri navigate me to <address> in <city>" and boom. This might have existed in luxury cars for years, but its coming down into the mainstream ~$30k cars recently and I'm loving it. I'm thankful for technologies like Siri in the context of driving at least.
- newjersey 10y agoAnecdotal counterpoint: Siri is horrible at recognizing my speech if it is anything that it doesn't expect. I can ask it to define a word all day long but I doubt it will get any better. It just keeps giving me the same (incorrect) response repeatedly. Google Now does a very good job at recognizing voice including words I may mispronounce when I say "define X" I can sort of imagine why. Google "knows" me better. What is awesome/scary is that I have tried this on other people's iPhones and Google Now still does better than Siri.
- EGreg 10y agoI just want to know one thing: DID APPLE FINALLY MAKE WEB PUSH AVAILABLE IN iOS THE WAY THEY HAVE IN MacOS? Anyone know?
- drinchev 10y agoNot announced. If it's reality it will come out this week when more information on Safari iOS.
- drinchev 10y agoiOS 10. 10 Features that I think they had a hard time to convince the audience that were so important. I've been using iOS since v3 and it's going ^2 complicated every year. Come on guys, nobody expects that you can deliver a revolution with every WWDC. Just don't make the interface more complicated. Siri, 3d touch, home kit? I barely know anyone using those and everyone these days has an iPhone. The focus is shifted from usability to features. So sad.
- k-mcgrady 10y ago>> "Siri, 3d touch, home kit? I barely know anyone using those" Shouldn't Apple improve them so that they become useful for more people then? I used Siri very occasionally but with the SDK I can see myself using it quite often when I'm at home and need to, for example, order an Uber. I can just yell it at my phone without stopping what I'm doing. With 3D touch do you expect them to just throw out years of development? No, they work to improve the UI and more people will use it - the glance able info on a force press on a home screen icon looks great to me.
- stevep98 10y agoI find Siri useful for certain things. 'Set a timer for 20 minutes' is faster for me than using the clock app. 'Navigate to the nearest gas station' is faster. Setting reminders is usually faster with Siri. Especially geofences ones. Finding pictures in a location is much easier with Siri.. "Find pictures at Lake Tahoe" The main problem is that you have to remember what you can do.
- matt-attack 10y ago"Set a timer for 20 minutes" is heavenly. No, extra bloat like, "Shall I start it now?", it just starts ticking as soon as you as for it. Every time you feed a parking meter, I recommend this feature.
- veidr 10y agoI also use voice to start timers, probably more than once a day on average. Which is why, by now, the idiotic and unfunny jokes Siri makes almost every time I do that are really fucking annoying (even though it doesn't say them out loud, and I just have to see them printed on the screen).
- sdegutis 10y agoApple used to be about quality products. They would ignore the demands of shareholders, who are always wrong and never actually understand what customers want. Now they're a generic computer company like Compaq and Gateway. Shareholders are running their business into the ground, and they're making terrible products, from head to toe.
- rimantas 10y agoSo what's so horrible about iPhone? Crappy build quality? Subpar camera? Nonexistant battery life? Performance is shit compared to cometition?
- bytesandbots 10y agoThird party integration and inter-operability with third party apps has been one of the areas Android fared better than iOS. Now with Siri, Maps and Messages third-party APIs and keyboard updates, apple can completely shed its walled-garden image.
- cm2187 10y agoMy only question is: will the nagging for apple services increase or decrease?
- eknight15 10y agoDepending on how Desktop sync works, I'm thinking we'll all be very familiar with the "Upgrade Storage" alert.
- amaks 10y agoWas it just me, or ability to interact and access personal data on the lock screen on a locked phone seems little insecure?
- ilyanep 10y agoIt's not just you. That was my first thought too, as it pretty much seems like a huge extension of the amount of data you can see without unlocking.
- k-mcgrady 10y agoThey're already showing personal data on the lock screen (messages, emails) and there is a setting to disable and has been for a few years.
- robbyking 10y agoThat was my first thought, too, but you'll most likely be able to toggle what information is visible when the the device is locked, the same way you can now with Messages, Mail, etc.
- sushid 10y agoI'm sure you'll be able to toggle these settings via settings. Currently, you can toggle off access to Siri, Notifications, Today View, Message/Relies to Message, and Wallet.
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- ommunist 10y agoHeck, I just bought a course to study iOS9 development... Who can withstand such a pace?
- k-mcgrady 10y agoIf you're developing production apps you're likely supporting at least the last two versions of iOS. I'm a full-time iOS developer and don't remember half the new stuff in iOS 9 simply because I don't need it yet or it's iOS 9 only and I have to support iOS 7+. Also all of that knowledge transfers. iOS 10 will bring extra deeper stuff that you're not going to get anywhere near learning on an intro course.
- giarc 10y ago3D Touch... you aren't adding it to every app now? ;)
- jonknee 10y agoFWIW iOS 11 will most likely be announced at this time next year. It shouldn't surprise anyone.
- dionidium 10y agoThe vast majority of what you'll learn there still applies. UITableView, for example, hasn't changed appreciably since it was introduced in iOS 2.0 (just to take a totally random example that popped into my head). More philosophically, you're looking at it all the wrong way. Learn the fundamentals and an understanding of new features comes easy.
- Lorenzo45 10y agoWhich course did you buy? The iOS development courses from Stanford are free on iTunes U and are probably the best out there. I did the one for iOS 7 and I learned all the fundamentals and more.
- ommunist 10y agothank you. bought a practical one on skillwise.
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- JustSomeNobody 10y agoThird party VOIP sounds great! Trying to answer hangouts from the lock screen is impossible currently.
- pducks32 10y agoI love the news maps ui it's beautiful and so much more intuitive. It was really confusing before even to me: a techie!
- giarc 10y agoAnyone know if Siri will still only respond when plugged in? I wish it were an option to turn on at all time. I realize battery would be drained considerably.
- franciscojgo 10y agoIt works every time, so long you are not on "Low Power Mode".
- kingnothing 10y agoAs of iOS9, the "hey Siri" touchless functionality is only available when the phone is plugged in.
- yoz-y 10y agoOnly on iPhone 6S though.
- JayHost 10y agoI guess as every innovative company reaches it's climax the motivation to actually innovate dies out. As long as the money is coming in they don't have to change a thing. But it begs a different question. What's all the money for if you're not going to have any fun? At least do some live drop / break / blend tests or something to spice things up.
- ChicagoBoy11 10y agoIs this the death of hybrid apps? Seems all the announcements were focus on the deep integration that apps can now have with the OS. For a long time, the big knock against hybrid development was that performance was never as good as native, but it seems that this new wave of integration presents a far more compelling case for native development, no?
- cheapsteak 10y agoAre those integrations not possible with hybrid apps?
- photokandy 10y agoAs long as one can leverage plugins for hybrid apps, I don't see why most of the demoed features today aren't possible in a hybrid app. At least nothing sent up huge red flags for me as a hybrid app developer.
- therealmarv 10y agoHow is object recognition possible on a (i)phone without a huge/massive dataset like Google uses on Google Photos' AI backend? It has to be worse AI than from Google Photos. Can someone clarify?
- nardi 10y agoYou only need a huge dataset to train the network. The trained network itself is (relatively) tiny, so it can be loaded and run on iPhones.
- radicality 10y agoWhen you say relatively, just how many MBs of data would a trained net be that can recognize objects and do the kind of recognition/photo grouping they showed at the keynote?
- visarga 10y agoIt's a whole subfield of machine learning called model distillation or model compression that concerns with shrinking large neural nets, or ensembles of them, to fit on small devices like phones and tablets. By reducing the space needed by 10x, they only lose 1-2% in accuracy. But what I like about it is that neural networks can be transferred between different architectures, and the whole process of training a neural net can be sped up by starting from a previous result.
- rcpt 10y agoYou only need large datasets to train a model - the result can be shipped around pretty easily. My company builds an app http://forevery.com/ http://forevery.com/ which actually runs a neural net on your phone to organize your photos.
- epynonymous 10y agois it just me or has apple really lost its advantage with the departure of steve jobs, i mean johnny ives is still there, but they seem to be doing a mediocre job, dont get me wrong, i really liked the new macbook when it came out, and i own an apple watch (more of a fashion accessory more than anything else), but maps, siri, music, photos, etc seem like minor increments. blow me away apple like hou did with the first intel based macs, or how about when mac os x first came out, the very first ipod, we need more makers, not an operations guy
- rimantas 10y agoJobs was there when iOS was in infancy. Now it is a mature platform. I don't get this constant "entertain me" whine.
- epynonymous 10y agoi've been a loyal apple user since the motorola 68030 mac ii, this was in the 90's so it's natural to expect apple to change the game every few years, with cook at the helm, he's done nothing exciting, just a lot of conservative incremental changes, you see where the stock's trending lately. i am not some fanboy that jumped on the apple bandwagon in the past 10 years, so from my perspective, apple is starting to falter, but jobs has laid a solid foundation of innovative products, couldn't see myself buy a dell/lenovo or android phone anytime soon, but things have certainly changed in the past few years, regardless if apple has so much cash in the bank. wwdc's in the past unveiled mac os x, the intel based macs (from powerpc), ipod, iphone, ipad, this wwdc has really been underwhelming granted it is a developer conference, but apple has always been using this to market their new gadgets.
- bowlingx 10y agoFinally they managed to remove the weird intelligent selection behavior in safari!!! (The one that unpredictable marks blocks or the whole website). Thank you apple :) They also ignore any viewport meta data so you can always zoom. My Cordova app doesn't like this :( I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically
- madeofpalk 10y agoInteresting. Got any details on that?
- bowlingx 10y agoThe releasenotes mention at least the zooming in safari.
- photokandy 10y agoGah; my app doesn't like it either! Gotta be a bug... :-(
- zimpenfish 10y ago> I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically I'm hoping it can't - being unable to zoom a web page means it goes on the shit list because then I can't read it how I want to.
- bowlingx 10y agoFor websites this seems ok for me, but for apps that run inside wkwebview, I think there should be more control about this behavior. You can't zoom normal apps so this would make the Usebility properly worse or unexpected.
- zimpenfish 10y agoOh, hmm, good point, I missed that subtlety. Yes, apps definitely should be able to prevent zooming. (Purely from a personal perspective, I'd prefer that people who made web apps didn't because they're a much less good user experience.)
- logicallee 10y agoIf you want to watch the keynote, the last line in this macrumors blog post: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/13/wwdc-2016-spoiler-free/ http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/13/wwdc-2016-spoiler-free/ provides a link labelled "Video Posted: A direct link to the video file is now available, with no spoilers." The direct link is: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/16faohbadfvoihjbadfvljhbphjb06/m3u8/hls_vod_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/16faohbadfv... - Hopefully you can just click it and it'll work. ---------------------------------------- If you want to download the above video. (In my case, on Windows, VLC has trouble with that so I used the instructions here to actually download it: http://stream-recorder.com/forum/livestreamer-m3u8-error-no-plugin-t20173.html http://stream-recorder.com/forum/livestreamer-m3u8-error-no-... ) The exact thing I did was: 1. Get dl-youtube.exe from here: http://youtube-dl.org/ http://youtube-dl.org/ (save the fourth link for windows, labelled youtube-dl.exe, to your desktop) 2. Option One: Download Highest-Quality Version From the command-line execute, in my case. The following line downloads the best quality version: C:\Users\User\Desktop>youtube-dl.exe http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/16faohbadfvoihjbadfvljhbphjb06/m3u8/hls_vod_mvp.m3u8 --hls-prefer-native -o output.ts Notice that the above defaults to the best stream which is 7.13 GB (and 1920x800). It's too much for me, so I killed it and instead did: ------------------------------------------ 2A. Option Two: Choose Quality Instead you can run -F to list formats. The following line outputs possible settings: youtube-dl.exe http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/16faohbadfvoihjbadfvljhbphjb06/m3u8/hls_vod_mvp.m3u8 --hls-prefer-native -F Which outputs: [info] Available formats for hls_vod_mvp: format code extension resolution note meta mp4 multiple Quality selection URL 786 mp4 480x200 786k , avc1.4d401f, mp4a.40.2 1406 mp4 640x266 1406k , avc1.4d401f, mp4a.40.2 2029 mp4 640x266 2029k , avc1.4d401f, mp4a.40.2 2806 mp4 960x400 2806k , avc1.4d401f, mp4a.40.2 3849 mp4 960x400 3849k , avc1.4d401f, mp4a.40.2 4967 mp4 1280x532 4967k , avc1.640028, mp4a.40.2 6581 mp4 1280x532 6581k , avc1.640028, mp4a.40.2 8728 mp4 1920x800 8728k , avc1.640028, mp4a.40.2 (best) I chose the one labelled 2806 for me, so I just ran: C:\Users\User\Desktop>youtube-dl.exe http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/16faohbadfvoihjbadfvljhbphjb06/m3u8/hls_vod_mvp.m3u8 --hls-prefer-native -f 2806 -o output.ts Notice that capital -F lists the available formats, lowercase f chooses one. This one is only 2.3 GB, which is good enough for me. At 2-3 MB/sec it took me twenty minutes to download. VLC plays this one just fine.
- philliphaydon 10y agoI love 3D Touch. Best feature on iphone.
- makecheck 10y agoSince they’re tweaking copy/paste to work between devices, hopefully they are also working on the phone UI for text selection. Before I care about cloud-sharing any text, I need to be able to SELECT IT properly, and frankly iOS fails completely at this right now. They need to remove the second-guessing, over-selecting, contextually-smartly-selecting code, or whatever it is doing now.
- ClassyPuff 10y agoLooks pretty interesting.... Apple is putting support for 3D touch, more features we expect to come & a better siri support for future...Siri is fine now I think, developers should work more hard for siri!!!
- paperpunk 10y agoIt's really troubling to me that 3D Touch features are a big part of this release and yet their most recent phone release (the iPhone SE) has no support for it at all, and neither does ANY iPad, including the flagship iPad Pro 9.7 released in March. I know many people are sceptical about 3D Touch. I myself found it to be quite useful if you build habits around it - until I got an iPad Pro 9.7 and found all those habits were useless. Since I had to break the habits on the iPad I rarely use it on the iPhone now. If Apple wants people to adopt 3D Touch and make it useful it has to actually be available on anything other than the 6S.
- jswny 10y agoDoes Apple really think that people use Siri? Yes, limited voice control is useful in the car when you need to call someone. Other than that, I've never seen someone using Siri for anything other than screwing around. I think Amazon has forced Apple's hand with Alexa. The problem is, Alexa is more useful, more open, and overall far ahead of Apple's technology. I don't think that Apple understands that the main reason Alexa is great is that Amazon put it in a tube and made it able to control the lights in my house, the music, and lots of other stuff. It's not just for changing your name to something stupid and asking it to Google things for you like Siri is.
- SeriousM 10y ago"It looks like the Photos app is getting a huge upgrade and now looks more like Google Photos. The big difference, obviously, is that Apple handles everything on your device and doesn’t collect data about you. " Yyyes, rrright...
- KuhlMensch 10y agoAh the last operating system I feel comfortable installing on my iphone 6 without risking (designed?) obsolescence crushing the performance. The features look really good. I use siri daily, but with 3rd party integrations that could be hourly.