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Tough to trust this analysis... For example Cadillac is the #3 worst brand yet there are no Cadillac models in the worst 20 models.

bcassedy 10y ago
Yep. And BMW at $17800 over 10 years, but the most expensive individual model for BMW was the 328i at $15600
- Jupe 10y ago
  I think you mean the least expensive. BMW parts are expensive.
  - Jupe 10y ago
    Who's down-voting me for stating facts? The 328i is certainly on the lower-end of the BMW price spectrum... https://www.google.com/#q=bwm+model+prices https://www.google.com/#q=bwm+model+prices
    - seszett 10y ago
      You misunderstood the post you were answering. Your answer doesn't help understanding how the article finds the average BMW maintenance cost to be higher than that of the BMW model with the highest maintenance cost. Unless brand costs are not calculated as a mean but something else very different, which is not explained.
      - Jupe 10y ago
        Yes, I see now. I was confused. Apparently, the 328i has a relatively common oil-leakage problem. http://repairpal.com/bmw/328i http://repairpal.com/bmw/328i Don't have the labor costs for a valve cover gasket, but they could be sizable. Scrolling down on repairpal web page above, apparently they can cost up to $1000? No wonder BMW 328i is in the higher range for maint. costs!
- eljimmy 10y ago
  My Yamaha R6 ($12k CAD brand new) was backed into by a car and the damage was mostly cosmetic but the parts and labour to fix it all still ended up at $9k. The problem is that paying for parts and parts replacement piece by piece is significantly more expensive than buying a new bike (or a car) as a whole.
chiph 10y ago
Anecdotal evidence - my sister had a 1st generation SRX sport-utility, and for whatever reason, Cadillac decided to put different tire widths on the front & rear wheels, with directional tread. This means you can't rotate the tires. It's also an all-wheel-drive model. So if you have an alignment issue that causes tire wear, or a puncture that can't be repaired, you can't just buy one tire -- you have to buy a full set of four at $200 (front) and $250 (rear) each. Repair costs like that adds up quickly. Like the $1200 3rd row seat motor that died. She started calling it the thousand-dollar-car, since any repairs were around that price.
- bm5k 10y ago
  You should never buy one tire anyway. You should always replace at least pairs.
  - busterarm 10y ago
    It's still a huge fuck-you move on Cadillac's part.
    - zippergz 10y ago
      To what benefit on their part? They don't manufacture tires, so they don't profit if you have to replace them more often. As another commenter pointed out, this is quite common on performance and luxury vehicles because it has handling advantages. If you're buying a luxury car, you're by definition choosing to pay more than is absolutely necessary for (what you consider to be) a better experience. The tires are part of that. You can argue that the line should be drawn elsewhere, but it's not arbitrary, and it's very much in line with the market segment they're going after.
      - busterarm 10y ago
        Luxury vehicles (of which Cadillac is) I'll give you. Performance vehicles I disagree. Handling choices are up to the mechanic/driver and you want to give them options but also make their maintenance choices simple. You should have a wide range of tire options on a performance car.

bcassedy 10y ago

Yep. And BMW at $17800 over 10 years, but the most expensive individual model for BMW was the 328i at $15600

Jupe 10y ago
I think you mean the least expensive. BMW parts are expensive.
- Jupe 10y ago
  Who's down-voting me for stating facts? The 328i is certainly on the lower-end of the BMW price spectrum... https://www.google.com/#q=bwm+model+prices https://www.google.com/#q=bwm+model+prices
  - seszett 10y ago
    You misunderstood the post you were answering. Your answer doesn't help understanding how the article finds the average BMW maintenance cost to be higher than that of the BMW model with the highest maintenance cost. Unless brand costs are not calculated as a mean but something else very different, which is not explained.
    - Jupe 10y ago
      Yes, I see now. I was confused. Apparently, the 328i has a relatively common oil-leakage problem. http://repairpal.com/bmw/328i http://repairpal.com/bmw/328i Don't have the labor costs for a valve cover gasket, but they could be sizable. Scrolling down on repairpal web page above, apparently they can cost up to $1000? No wonder BMW 328i is in the higher range for maint. costs!
eljimmy 10y ago
My Yamaha R6 ($12k CAD brand new) was backed into by a car and the damage was mostly cosmetic but the parts and labour to fix it all still ended up at $9k. The problem is that paying for parts and parts replacement piece by piece is significantly more expensive than buying a new bike (or a car) as a whole.

chiph 10y ago

Anecdotal evidence - my sister had a 1st generation SRX sport-utility, and for whatever reason, Cadillac decided to put different tire widths on the front & rear wheels, with directional tread. This means you can't rotate the tires. It's also an all-wheel-drive model. So if you have an alignment issue that causes tire wear, or a puncture that can't be repaired, you can't just buy one tire -- you have to buy a full set of four at $200 (front) and $250 (rear) each. Repair costs like that adds up quickly. Like the $1200 3rd row seat motor that died. She started calling it the thousand-dollar-car, since any repairs were around that price.

bm5k 10y ago
You should never buy one tire anyway. You should always replace at least pairs.
- busterarm 10y ago
  It's still a huge fuck-you move on Cadillac's part.
  - zippergz 10y ago
    To what benefit on their part? They don't manufacture tires, so they don't profit if you have to replace them more often. As another commenter pointed out, this is quite common on performance and luxury vehicles because it has handling advantages. If you're buying a luxury car, you're by definition choosing to pay more than is absolutely necessary for (what you consider to be) a better experience. The tires are part of that. You can argue that the line should be drawn elsewhere, but it's not arbitrary, and it's very much in line with the market segment they're going after.
    - busterarm 10y ago
      Luxury vehicles (of which Cadillac is) I'll give you. Performance vehicles I disagree. Handling choices are up to the mechanic/driver and you want to give them options but also make their maintenance choices simple. You should have a wide range of tire options on a performance car.