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Crazy how Tesla as an entire company is scrutinized for car incidents that no one would even remotely care about if it was any other car manufacturer. If this g

by biokoda 10y ago

Crazy how Tesla as an entire company is scrutinized for car incidents that no one would even remotely care about if it was any other car manufacturer. If this guy had a range rover, or even some other electric car this would be a nonstory.

rplnt 10y ago
(Most* ) shorted stock means a lot of people would like it to fall. Can't hurt to help. (*edited, not the most)
- Fej 10y ago
  Most shorted? Really?
  - danbruc 10y ago
    I guess it is Most (shorted stock) means [...] not (Most shorted) stock means [...].
    - rplnt 10y ago
      I actually meant the latter, but I think I was wrong as I can't find any reliable source. Just found one weird that placed Tesla in the top 10. I must have read it in some discussion I guess.
      - danbruc 10y ago
        Now I realize that the first one would have to continue with mean not means.
    - jsjohnst 10y ago
      Or worded more clearly... "Most of the time, shorted stock means [...]"
legulere 10y ago
It's the same as with Apple. If you put out so much marketing about how your products are perfect every little flaw will be hyped just as much as you hype the positive traits.
- biokoda 10y ago
  A broken iPhone is not international news.
  - imtringued 10y ago
    Does Bendgate count?
    - ucaetano 10y ago
      Well, not exactly ONE broken iPhone, is it?
      - lostlogin 10y ago
        When Tesla owners start wrecking their cars on day one of release to make YouTube videos it will be more similar.
  - ciaranm 10y ago
    It really ( https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/26/apple-bendgate-iphone-6 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/26/apple-ben...) was ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29349998 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29349998 ).
    - biokoda 10y ago
      Not even remotely the same. Tesla gets into international news when one guy has an accident. Apple got into international news when they made a design/manufacturing error for an entire generation of phones.
usrusr 10y ago
How much of that attention is caused by the original incident/reporting and how much comes from Tesla's decision to publish an overly defensive response on their blog?
- kemayo 10y ago
  Well, it made it into the NYT [1], which I saw on the HN frontpage yesterday, before the blog article showed up, so I'd say not too much. [1]: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/tesla-model-s-nhtsa-suspension-failure.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/tesla-model-s-nht...
- mannykannot 10y ago
  For me it was the NDA, and Tesla's attempt to brush it off in this latest statement has not improved things. The agreement they sought was far broader than they now claim.
malz 10y ago
The NYT article implies Tesla is not acting like other car companies. >Ford, General Motors and Toyota all said they did not have customers sign confidentiality agreements in exchange for fixing cars that have broken down. >Joan Claybrook, a former head of N.H.T.S.A., said requiring customers to keep quiet about repairs aroused suspicion. “I don’t know why they’d do that,” she said. “It makes it seem like they want to cover something up.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/business/tesla-motors-model-s-suspension.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/business/tesla-motors-mode...
- biokoda 10y ago
  Because like I said, if this happened to a Ford, GM car or a Toyota, this would be a nonevent. They don't need them. Tesla going for confidentiality is a consequence of their every move being scrutinized on an entirely different level then anyone else.

by biokoda 10y ago

rplnt 10y ago

(Most* ) shorted stock means a lot of people would like it to fall. Can't hurt to help. (*edited, not the most)

Fej 10y ago
Most shorted? Really?
- danbruc 10y ago
  I guess it is Most (shorted stock) means [...] not (Most shorted) stock means [...].
  - rplnt 10y ago
    I actually meant the latter, but I think I was wrong as I can't find any reliable source. Just found one weird that placed Tesla in the top 10. I must have read it in some discussion I guess.
    - danbruc 10y ago
      Now I realize that the first one would have to continue with mean not means.
  - jsjohnst 10y ago
    Or worded more clearly... "Most of the time, shorted stock means [...]"

legulere 10y ago

It's the same as with Apple. If you put out so much marketing about how your products are perfect every little flaw will be hyped just as much as you hype the positive traits.

biokoda 10y ago
A broken iPhone is not international news.
- imtringued 10y ago
  Does Bendgate count?
  - ucaetano 10y ago
    Well, not exactly ONE broken iPhone, is it?
    - lostlogin 10y ago
      When Tesla owners start wrecking their cars on day one of release to make YouTube videos it will be more similar.
- ciaranm 10y ago
  It really ( https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/26/apple-bendgate-iphone-6 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/sep/26/apple-ben...) was ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29349998 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29349998 ).
  - biokoda 10y ago
    Not even remotely the same. Tesla gets into international news when one guy has an accident. Apple got into international news when they made a design/manufacturing error for an entire generation of phones.

usrusr 10y ago

How much of that attention is caused by the original incident/reporting and how much comes from Tesla's decision to publish an overly defensive response on their blog?

kemayo 10y ago
Well, it made it into the NYT [1], which I saw on the HN frontpage yesterday, before the blog article showed up, so I'd say not too much. [1]: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/tesla-model-s-nhtsa-suspension-failure.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/tesla-model-s-nht...
mannykannot 10y ago
For me it was the NDA, and Tesla's attempt to brush it off in this latest statement has not improved things. The agreement they sought was far broader than they now claim.

malz 10y ago

The NYT article implies Tesla is not acting like other car companies. >Ford, General Motors and Toyota all said they did not have customers sign confidentiality agreements in exchange for fixing cars that have broken down. >Joan Claybrook, a former head of N.H.T.S.A., said requiring customers to keep quiet about repairs aroused suspicion. “I don’t know why they’d do that,” she said. “It makes it seem like they want to cover something up.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/business/tesla-motors-model-s-suspension.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/business/tesla-motors-mode...

biokoda 10y ago
Because like I said, if this happened to a Ford, GM car or a Toyota, this would be a nonevent. They don't need them. Tesla going for confidentiality is a consequence of their every move being scrutinized on an entirely different level then anyone else.