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A perfect solution for those who will have jobs and money after most do not.

imtringued 10y ago
Well in a world with no human jobs, Universal Basic Income boils down to the fact the wealth of those who own robots will be redistributed to those who don't have them. So why not make it so that everyone has some share of robots?
- collyw 10y ago
  Communist!
  - Ma8ee 10y ago
    Yes, maybe Marx was right all along, just 150 years too early.
    - CelestialTeapot 10y ago
      His critique of capitalism seems pretty spot on, but I'm not so sure about his solutions to the problem. Here's a (mercifully short) article on the subject by Chris Hedges: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/karl_marx_was_right_20150531 http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/karl_marx_was_right_2015...
- chopin 10y ago
  >Well in a world with no human jobs, Universal Basic Income boils down to the fact the wealth of those who own robots will be redistributed to those who don't have them It would be interesting to see this proposal work out. Capital is movable whereas people are mostly not. How would you prevent the robots moving (or built and run) where there are no taxes on them? I don't see how this be preventable without all nations agreeing on it. It doesn't work even with tax havens within the EU so why should this work world wide?
- dvh 10y ago
  Someone else will always have better robots than you, your unemployed robots will sit in your garage.
TruthAndDare 10y ago
Unless we were overpopulated, it would still work out. That is, if everyone could go out and find a plot of land to live off. Better yet, all the people without access to automation could in form an entire economy among themselves. They would live like we do now, or like we have done at some point in history. Even without any support from the more developed society, they could develop like we do now.
- cousin_it 10y ago
  Good luck outbidding rich folks for land.
  - TruthAndDare 10y ago
    What do you mean? The premise was that there would be plenty of land to go around for everyone. Unfortunately, we have put ourselves in a position where land has become a scarce resource.
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- Chris2048 10y ago
  In the past resources were tight, and population was often controlled by fighting over land...
ArkyBeagle 10y ago
It's just a finance problem. An analogous thing to look at is mules v. tractors.

Well in a world with no human jobs, Universal Basic Income boils down to the fact the wealth of those who own robots will be redistributed to those who don't have them. So why not make it so that everyone has some share of robots?

collyw 10y ago
Communist!
- Ma8ee 10y ago
  Yes, maybe Marx was right all along, just 150 years too early.
  - CelestialTeapot 10y ago
    His critique of capitalism seems pretty spot on, but I'm not so sure about his solutions to the problem. Here's a (mercifully short) article on the subject by Chris Hedges: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/karl_marx_was_right_20150531 http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/karl_marx_was_right_2015...
chopin 10y ago
>Well in a world with no human jobs, Universal Basic Income boils down to the fact the wealth of those who own robots will be redistributed to those who don't have them It would be interesting to see this proposal work out. Capital is movable whereas people are mostly not. How would you prevent the robots moving (or built and run) where there are no taxes on them? I don't see how this be preventable without all nations agreeing on it. It doesn't work even with tax havens within the EU so why should this work world wide?
dvh 10y ago
Someone else will always have better robots than you, your unemployed robots will sit in your garage.

TruthAndDare 10y ago

Unless we were overpopulated, it would still work out. That is, if everyone could go out and find a plot of land to live off. Better yet, all the people without access to automation could in form an entire economy among themselves. They would live like we do now, or like we have done at some point in history. Even without any support from the more developed society, they could develop like we do now.

cousin_it 10y ago
Good luck outbidding rich folks for land.
- TruthAndDare 10y ago
  What do you mean? The premise was that there would be plenty of land to go around for everyone. Unfortunately, we have put ourselves in a position where land has become a scarce resource.
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Chris2048 10y ago
In the past resources were tight, and population was often controlled by fighting over land...

ArkyBeagle 10y ago

It's just a finance problem. An analogous thing to look at is mules v. tractors.