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Ah, yes, that's why I hate Clarkson: "Nor is it normal to stand outside in the rain to have a cigarette..." I've heard this rant 100 times before. Wanna smoke a

by pkulak 17y ago

Ah, yes, that's why I hate Clarkson: "Nor is it normal to stand outside in the rain to have a cigarette..." I've heard this rant 100 times before. Wanna smoke a cigarette around people's children, or beat your wife, or drive a car with no cat that gets 2 MPG and spews 2 dozen cars worth of soot, or about 100 other things you regret not being able to do now? Well, too damn bad. It's not the 50s anymore. Get over it and stop wining.

ErrantX 17y ago
I disagree. Clarkson is all about throwing human weakness into sharp relief. So what if that's his opinion. He couldn't care less what we think and neither should we :-) I think people like clarkson are really important to throw some of the idiocies of society into sharp relief.
BigZaphod 17y ago
Do you dismiss everything he says or does because of the one thing you disagree with? People are complex and have many facets. You (or anyone) are not required to agree with everything a person says or does to also respect some of what they say and do. I'm not saying you are required to agree with what he says (or even to give a shit about what I say) - I'm just saying that it'd be nice if we (everyone) didn't always seem to be looking for the shortest path to writing off a person as useless.
- ramidarigaz 17y ago
  >You (or anyone) are not required to agree with everything a person says or does to also respect some of what they say and do. This is another problem that is very similar to what Jeremy wrote about. I see this quite often, mostly in local news. Someone makes a statement that people don't like, and, regardless of their previous standing, suddenly everything they stand for has to be bad. If I had one wish for the world, it would be that everyone becomes just a little more rational. We have to look at the big picture, get around all this maddening nonsense.
roundsquare 17y ago
Yes, the cigarette part of his argument was the weakest one. I'm honestly not sure why he included it... unlike his other examples its not a rare event and the cost of the new law is not high. However, if you exclude that line... what is your complaint about the article?
- pkulak 17y ago
  My only complaint is that I've heard it all a million times. Maybe at 28 I'm just old now and this is brand new to people, but I remember these Denis Leary routines from the early 90's. It's just playing to the audience's sense of victimhood, but it's always the rich, white, Protestant males who are supposed to be the victims.
  - pbhjpbhj 17y ago
    >it's always the rich, white, Protestant males I'll give you rich and male. He's definitely a pinky colour but I can let "white" slide. I'm pretty sure he's not a Christian. Do you consider "rich, white, Protestant males" should not be allowed to air their opinions?
- ErrantX 17y ago
  It's a running joke. He adds that rant pretty much any opportunity he can :)

by pkulak 17y ago

ErrantX 17y ago

I disagree. Clarkson is all about throwing human weakness into sharp relief. So what if that's his opinion. He couldn't care less what we think and neither should we :-) I think people like clarkson are really important to throw some of the idiocies of society into sharp relief.

BigZaphod 17y ago

Do you dismiss everything he says or does because of the one thing you disagree with? People are complex and have many facets. You (or anyone) are not required to agree with everything a person says or does to also respect some of what they say and do. I'm not saying you are required to agree with what he says (or even to give a shit about what I say) - I'm just saying that it'd be nice if we (everyone) didn't always seem to be looking for the shortest path to writing off a person as useless.

ramidarigaz 17y ago
>You (or anyone) are not required to agree with everything a person says or does to also respect some of what they say and do. This is another problem that is very similar to what Jeremy wrote about. I see this quite often, mostly in local news. Someone makes a statement that people don't like, and, regardless of their previous standing, suddenly everything they stand for has to be bad. If I had one wish for the world, it would be that everyone becomes just a little more rational. We have to look at the big picture, get around all this maddening nonsense.

roundsquare 17y ago

Yes, the cigarette part of his argument was the weakest one. I'm honestly not sure why he included it... unlike his other examples its not a rare event and the cost of the new law is not high. However, if you exclude that line... what is your complaint about the article?

pkulak 17y ago
My only complaint is that I've heard it all a million times. Maybe at 28 I'm just old now and this is brand new to people, but I remember these Denis Leary routines from the early 90's. It's just playing to the audience's sense of victimhood, but it's always the rich, white, Protestant males who are supposed to be the victims.
- pbhjpbhj 17y ago
  >it's always the rich, white, Protestant males I'll give you rich and male. He's definitely a pinky colour but I can let "white" slide. I'm pretty sure he's not a Christian. Do you consider "rich, white, Protestant males" should not be allowed to air their opinions?
ErrantX 17y ago
It's a running joke. He adds that rant pretty much any opportunity he can :)