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Where precisely does it explicitly say on TPB's website that it is "setup for the purpose of finding pirated material." In fact they explicitly state otherwise:
by mbesto 10y ago
Where precisely does it explicitly say on TPB's website that it is "setup for the purpose of finding pirated material." In fact they explicitly state otherwise:
The Pirate Bay is the worlds largest bittorrent indexer. Bittorrent is a filesharing protocol that in a reliable way enables big and fast file transfers.
No torrent files are saved at the server. That means no copyrighted and/or illegal material are stored by us. It is therefore not possible to hold the people behind The Pirate Bay responsible for the material that is being spread using the site.
I'd appreciate a copy paste of the specific text that says they are setup with the purpose to find pirated material, otherwise it's implied and it's very different.
- ksk 10y agoIt doesn't have to say on the bottle of water that it is explicitly sold to quench your thirst either. People are not stupid.
- Dylan16807 10y agoThe only thing piracy-focused is the userbase. I don't think it's fair to shut down a content-neutral site based on the percentage of users that are doing illegal things.
- mbesto 10y agoBottled water is used for like 1000x more applications then "thirst quench". For example - I just watered my garden with it.
- ksk 10y agoSorry you just lost me. I thought you were genuine but now I realize you're wasting everyone's time. Good bye.
- notahacker 10y agoSince when was it required for someone to explicitly state "the purpose of this website is to commit this civil/criminal offence" for a court to rule that a website owner is intentionally committing or assisting in an offence? I mean, if it calls itself the Pirate Bay and publicly refuses to remove references to pirated material on request (whilst pruning links to fake torrents) it's pretty difficult to take seriously an argument that the preponderance of references to pirated material is merely incidental.
- ominous 10y agoAmazing. A court can rule on intention. Some days are more dystopian than others.
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoCourts rule on intention all the time, as I understand it. That's pretty much their primary function; has been for centuries?
- pdabbadabba 10y agoThere is absolutely nothing new or unusual here. Intent has been an essential element in virtually every crime since the dawn of our legal system (and the English system before it). If you run over someone with your car by accident, it's at worst manslaughter (and probably no crime at all). But if you did it intentionally it's murder. I could come up with examples like this literally all day.
- pdabbadabba 10y ago> Where precisely does it explicitly say on TPB's website that it is "setup for the purpose of finding pirated material." This is simply not relevant. They do not have to explicitly say anything for it to still be indisputable that they are set up primarily to facilitate piracy. > In fact they explicitly state otherwise Nope! The quote you posted only says that they do not store copyrighted material themselves. That is entirely consistent with being set up primarily to facilitate piracy through BitTorrent. In fact, the awareness that your quote suggests of the copyrighted material TPB makes available (note that I'm not saying "storing") is perhaps weak evidence for the opposite conclusion: they know that they're promoting piracy, but think they can get away with it because they aren't actually storing the files. (They are, of course, completely wrong. You can intentionally facilitate piracy without actually pirating works yourself. Remember Napster and LimeWire?)