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In case of unbearable government tyranny, the civilians are going to have an insurgency against their own fathers, sons, and brothers?
by kiba 10y ago
In case of unbearable government tyranny, the civilians are going to have an insurgency against their own fathers, sons, and brothers?
- jonstokes 10y agoDunno why you got downvoted, but that's actually a much more legit objection to the "guns are a last defense against tyranny" argument than "ZOMG DRONEZ". My answer is, I have no idea, and I hope I never find out.
- kauffj 10y agoIn case of unbearable government tyranny, the soldiers are going to kill insurgents that are their own fathers, sons, and brothers?
- daxorid 10y agoAbsolutely. Given the full power of the UCMJ, Oathkeepers are little more than a fun Constitutionalist fantasy.
- knieveltech 10y agoAww. I think you hurt someone's libertarian ideals with that comment.
- adventured 10y agoYou mean like the Revolutionary and Civil wars in the US? Yes, that exact thing does sometimes occur. Historically it occurs frequently all around the world. At any given time, there is a civil war going on somewhere in the world that involves just such conflict.
- maxerickson 10y agoIt happened in the civil war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_against_brother https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_against_brother And that was with the sides largely being split geographically.
- dragonwriter 10y agoThe idea that the sides were split geographically has some truth, but is overstated and a result of looking at the decisions of state governments -- there were supporters of the Union cause in states that seceded (and, in fact, there were union regiments raised from every state in the Confederacy except South Carolina), and supporters of the rebel cause in states that remained in the Union. The illusion of a clean geographic split is the result of the fact that a state government's choice to secede and join the confederacy or not was starkly binary.
- maxerickson 10y agoAccording to [1] and [2] about 5% of Union soldiers were from southern states. "Largely" works for a split like that. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Unionist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Unionist [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Army
- rhizome 10y agoYou may be interested in the Korean movie, "Tae Guk Gi," which illustrates exactly what you're talking about and occurred during your parents' or grandparents' lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taegukgi_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taegukgi_(film)
- yongjik 10y agoErr... the movie shows what happens when the government forces people to shoot the bad guys. When there are two governments (The Korean War), brothers end up shooting at each other.
- rhizome 10y agoTo be sure, there were two governments in the US Civil War as well. I'd say it's a pretty rare situation where a unified government turns citizens against each other with guns. Maybe The Great Leap Forward and the like, but even that was maybe more prosecutorial.