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The two sexes are not identical. Boy are you going to be surprised about what pants are hiding.

nostrebored 10y ago
You know exactly what I mean. Arguing for the idea of "brain sex" is essentialist and ridiculous. There's nothing that makes my wife or the average woman a less capable programmer than anyone else in the field other than a consistent problem with socialization.
- H0n3sty 10y ago
  Men and women have been subject to different pressures throughout the evolution of our species. Its seems unlikely that this would not lead to some differences either on average or across the populations.
  - nostrebored 10y ago
    If you can provide me with any well-done research showing that evopsych is anything besides the modern phrenology I'd be surprised.
    - H0n3sty 10y ago
      Wow, that's a really good question. I'm fairly certain you've done a great deal more research on this than me. I had to start by finding the definition of two of the words you used. For the benefit of others who might not be as well versed... evopsych - psychological traits are evolved adaptations phrenology - the detailed study of the shape and size of the cranium as a supposed indication of character and mental abilities My previous post was based on information from a recent study on Y-DNA which indicates a high differential in reproductive rate between men and women, with men reproducing at a much lower rate. This of course means that reproductive competition is much higher amongst men (at least in terms of successful reproduction) and might have lead to the aggressive pruning that we see in the y-chromosome. I'm also aware that competition has a heavy influence on evolution and that the sex chromosomes are not really isolated to gender specific anatomy. Here's that study: http://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full http://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full I found another study (link below) on differences in personality traits across genders and culture. The authors found gender differences to be most pronounced in cultures that minimize traditional sex roles. Does this study fit your criteria? http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~ssj/Genderdifferences%20in%20personality%20traits%20across%20cultures%20Robust%20andsurprising%20findings.pdf http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~ssj/Genderdifferences%20in%20persona... With respect to phrenology, I'm aware of studies linking brain size to intelligence. The meta-analysis (linked below) confirms this and actually notes a higher correlation among women. http://www.govrel.vcu.edu//news/Releases/2005/june/McDaniel-Big%20Brain.pdf http://www.govrel.vcu.edu//news/Releases/2005/june/McDaniel-... From your previous post, I'm guessing you might have reason to discard this type of study. Could you please elaborate and share your thoughts?
dang 10y ago
Please don't post glib comments on divisive subjects. Comments here need to be civil and substantive; yours was neither, and this is a particularly bad choice of thread to further degrade. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826451 and marked it off-topic.

You know exactly what I mean. Arguing for the idea of "brain sex" is essentialist and ridiculous. There's nothing that makes my wife or the average woman a less capable programmer than anyone else in the field other than a consistent problem with socialization.

H0n3sty 10y ago
Men and women have been subject to different pressures throughout the evolution of our species. Its seems unlikely that this would not lead to some differences either on average or across the populations.
- nostrebored 10y ago
  If you can provide me with any well-done research showing that evopsych is anything besides the modern phrenology I'd be surprised.
  - H0n3sty 10y ago
    Wow, that's a really good question. I'm fairly certain you've done a great deal more research on this than me. I had to start by finding the definition of two of the words you used. For the benefit of others who might not be as well versed... evopsych - psychological traits are evolved adaptations phrenology - the detailed study of the shape and size of the cranium as a supposed indication of character and mental abilities My previous post was based on information from a recent study on Y-DNA which indicates a high differential in reproductive rate between men and women, with men reproducing at a much lower rate. This of course means that reproductive competition is much higher amongst men (at least in terms of successful reproduction) and might have lead to the aggressive pruning that we see in the y-chromosome. I'm also aware that competition has a heavy influence on evolution and that the sex chromosomes are not really isolated to gender specific anatomy. Here's that study: http://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full http://genome.cshlp.org/content/25/4/459.full I found another study (link below) on differences in personality traits across genders and culture. The authors found gender differences to be most pronounced in cultures that minimize traditional sex roles. Does this study fit your criteria? http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~ssj/Genderdifferences%20in%20personality%20traits%20across%20cultures%20Robust%20andsurprising%20findings.pdf http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~ssj/Genderdifferences%20in%20persona... With respect to phrenology, I'm aware of studies linking brain size to intelligence. The meta-analysis (linked below) confirms this and actually notes a higher correlation among women. http://www.govrel.vcu.edu//news/Releases/2005/june/McDaniel-Big%20Brain.pdf http://www.govrel.vcu.edu//news/Releases/2005/june/McDaniel-... From your previous post, I'm guessing you might have reason to discard this type of study. Could you please elaborate and share your thoughts?

dang 10y ago

Please don't post glib comments on divisive subjects. Comments here need to be civil and substantive; yours was neither, and this is a particularly bad choice of thread to further degrade. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11826451 and marked it off-topic.