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Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems too coincidental that multiple services (Amazon, Facebook, Apple... that I know of, so far) have been affected, on the same day.
by akulbe 10y ago
Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems too coincidental that multiple services
(Amazon, Facebook, Apple... that I know of, so far)
have been affected, on the same day.
- api 10y agoAre they all on EC2? Maybe EC2 is throwing a fit.
- luhn 10y agoAmazon is, but Apple and Facebook both operate their own data centers. Edit: I take that back, Apple uses several cloud providers, including AWS.
- api 10y agoBGP? Tier-1 issues?
- alanh 10y agoAnd also Azure
- therein 10y agoApple does use S3 for storage. You didn't hear it from me.
- RKearney 10y agoThey also use AT&T and Azure for storage too. You did hear that from me, or anyone else with a firewall running on OS X.
- tedmiston 10y ago...AT&T for data storage?
- sethhochberg 10y agohttps://www.business.att.com/enterprise/Portfolio/cloud/ https://www.business.att.com/enterprise/Portfolio/cloud/ They're a massive company. When you already own telecom networks and run your own datacenters, selling cloud infrastructure services isn't too far fetched.
- conradev 10y agoand Google Cloud Storage as well!
- ghshephard 10y agoYou just have to run littlesnitch, and see all the AWS servers that Apple applications hit. I don't think it's a secret that a ton of Apple applications are backended by AWS.
- niels_olson 10y agoAll hail Little Snitch. So much insight available in that app. I wish there were rule sets for Little Snitch like there are for AdBlock Plus.
- blowski 10y agoIndeed, I've read multiple articles about it, some of which seem to have been fed by the Apple PR machine: http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-cuts-aws-spending-signs-with-google-report/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-cuts-aws-spending-signs-w...
- rconti 10y agoThey also use METRIC TONS of ultra high-end storage. Actually that's not saying much, because a single cabinet is around a metric ton. So it was unintentionally accurate.
- nstj 10y agoApple discusses who it uses for cloud storage when discussing iCloud in their security guide (valid as of May 2016): > The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as Amazon S3 and Windows Azure. [0]: https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf
- evanriley 10y agoThe only Apple thing that I know was on AWS was the beats1 radio thing when it launched, not sure if it still is.
- ghshephard 10y agoPhotos uses AWS for storage.
- akulbe 10y agoAWS status page is all green. http://status.aws.amazon.com/ http://status.aws.amazon.com/
- cookiecaper 10y agoJust for the record, our company has found that Amazon occasionally omits incidents from their status page, though I doubt they could get away with omitting something this significant.
- adt2bt 10y agoAll of the cloud providers have an incentive to downplay incidents and only post them to the status page when they're really bad. The bar is pretty high to get something on there.
- NeutronBoy 10y agoI mean, they outline them in their fineprint. Amazon doesn't consider the unavailability of 1 EC2 availability zone an outage because their position is that you should be architecting around that. 2 or more AZ outages in the same region and it'll show up on their status page IIRC.
- bigiain 10y ago"Occasionally"? <laugh>
- ChristianBundy 10y ago</laugh> Holy shit, you were laughing for 28 minutes straight. Are you alright?
- inopinatus 10y agoYou can tell who grew up in the XHTML era rather than SGML or HTML5.
- Keyframe 10y agoMaybe one of the backbone carriers has a bad day?
- jlgaddis 10y agoPerhaps, but I (network engineer at an ISP) haven't heard anything like that, and all of these services have multiple upstreams and private peerings.
- astrodust 10y agoComcast has as few peerings as they can legally get away with. Redundancy isn't high on their list of things to care about, apparently.
- jlgaddis 10y ago> ... as they can legally get away with. Can you clarify a bit? I'm not sure what you mean. An ISP isn't, by law, required to peer with anyone.
- astrodust 10y agoIf they didn't peer with anyone they'd be a closed network and it would be illegal to advertise that as "internet access". They're legally required to live up to the claims of their product. If they say X Mbit/s then there needs to be at least a plausible case made that they can achieve those results. Anything significantly less is to invite a class-action lawsuit.
- draw_down 10y agoWhy?
- cookiecaper 10y agoNew NSA program rolling out? O_O
- sam_pointer 10y agoNo. That was the Syria/Iraq/Iran BGP outages from earlier today.
- kchoudhu 10y agoYou laugh, but I guarantee you that the NSA has systems reliability issues just like the rest of us.
- jrockway 10y agoThe last person that guaranteed me something about the NSA is now exiled in Russia ;)
- cookiecaper 10y agoThis comment turned out to be surprisingly controversial for a pretty obvious joke. I've observed it at +4, down to +1, back up to +3, and now it's at 0! Heh. Didn't mean to rustle jimmies of any NSA contractors that may read HN. I'm sure in real life your rollouts are much smoother than this. :P
- linkregister 10y agoI'm sure the NSA employees and contractors are just happy to see non-threatening post about the agency. The downvotes probably came from people tired of the joke. It is an oft-repeated joke.
- draw_down 10y agoWell, I agree it got too much attention, that's for sure.
- zalmoxes 10y agoIt's related to Akamai DNS.
- geerlingguy 10y agoCharter (ISP) was also out for over an hour—first time this year it was a complete outage and not just a DNS issue.
- feld 10y agoI've been on Charter all day VPN'd into work with no interruption. Although I have a business connection at home, so it's possible I'm avoiding whatever middleboxes they jam residential traffic into.
- vonklaus 10y agomy ISP Cox, had server failure for several hours about 2 weeks ago. It was a DNS issue as well. I don't want to take 2 unrelated things and call them similar, but one has to imagine if some of the above posters are substantiated several huge players losing peering/connectivity and 2 very large ISPs having non-trivial multi-hour multi-region DNS outages is bad. Horrible coincidence. I have been losing google docs intermittenly all day (and I have been working nearly exclusively in google docs all day) maybe just me, but I have been unable to upload photos (same one as yesterday to gdocs) and from drive/docs dash I would lose connectivity and have sever lag loading up a doc I just worked in. Had to close browser several times.
- Raphmedia 10y agoWell that was strange. Wonder what it was.