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I feel the same way about network manager. Maybe it's just me, but I am not a huge fan of nmcli.

by chrisper 10y ago

msbarnett 10y ago
networkmanager is a shocking mess, when you look at how simple this functionality is in the *BSDs.
- justinsaccount 10y ago
  by "this functionality" do you mean things like * connecting to different wireless networks that use wpa enterprise authentication (which I think some of the bsds only recently added support for) * bringing up usb networking interfaces via cell phone tethering on demand * managing multiple different vpn clients and profiles from a single interface Or do you mean things like * Bringing up a networking interface with a static ip address Because I use network manager for the former on laptops, and remove it on servers that only need the latter.
  - msbarnett 10y ago
    The former. As with many things, yes, it took OpenBSD and FreeBSD longer to get that functionality. The tradeoff is that they delivered a well thought out, consistent, and well-engineered solution, rather than a poorly thought out mess of CADT-driven bloat.
ymse 10y ago
You can just uninstall it and use something else to configure networking. It's one of the first things I purge on any distro. With systemd it's not so simple.
- chrisper 10y ago
  What do you replace it with?
  - wink 10y ago
    I use wpa_supplicant + dhcpcd + wpa_gui and only have to update my config like once per year.
  - toast0 10y ago
    All of my debian systems have their network configured with /etc/network/interfaces like so: iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid redacted wpa-psk "redacted" It's a bit clunky if I need to take a laptop around to different wifi networks, but I don't do that very much.
    - tremon 10y ago
      I use wpa_supplicant on Debian, it has no problem associating with many different wpa-psk networks. I think it can also do wpa-enterprise, but haven't needed that yet.
  - mdadm 10y ago
    Personally, I replace it with connman[0], as I find connmanctl(1) to be far more usable than nmcli. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman
  - MertsA 10y ago
    systemd-networkd It actually works rather well but it doesn't have every feature that NetworkManager does.
  - jleahy 10y ago
    I use netctl and find it works very well. For non-wifi use cases you probably don't need anything at all (maybe dhcdcd).

I feel the same way about network manager. Maybe it's just me, but I am not a huge fan of nmcli.

msbarnett 10y ago

networkmanager is a shocking mess, when you look at how simple this functionality is in the *BSDs.

justinsaccount 10y ago
by "this functionality" do you mean things like * connecting to different wireless networks that use wpa enterprise authentication (which I think some of the bsds only recently added support for) * bringing up usb networking interfaces via cell phone tethering on demand * managing multiple different vpn clients and profiles from a single interface Or do you mean things like * Bringing up a networking interface with a static ip address Because I use network manager for the former on laptops, and remove it on servers that only need the latter.
- msbarnett 10y ago
  The former. As with many things, yes, it took OpenBSD and FreeBSD longer to get that functionality. The tradeoff is that they delivered a well thought out, consistent, and well-engineered solution, rather than a poorly thought out mess of CADT-driven bloat.

ymse 10y ago

You can just uninstall it and use something else to configure networking. It's one of the first things I purge on any distro. With systemd it's not so simple.

chrisper 10y ago
What do you replace it with?
- wink 10y ago
  I use wpa_supplicant + dhcpcd + wpa_gui and only have to update my config like once per year.
- toast0 10y ago
  All of my debian systems have their network configured with /etc/network/interfaces like so: iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid redacted wpa-psk "redacted" It's a bit clunky if I need to take a laptop around to different wifi networks, but I don't do that very much.
  - tremon 10y ago
    I use wpa_supplicant on Debian, it has no problem associating with many different wpa-psk networks. I think it can also do wpa-enterprise, but haven't needed that yet.
- mdadm 10y ago
  Personally, I replace it with connman[0], as I find connmanctl(1) to be far more usable than nmcli. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman
- MertsA 10y ago
  systemd-networkd It actually works rather well but it doesn't have every feature that NetworkManager does.
- jleahy 10y ago
  I use netctl and find it works very well. For non-wifi use cases you probably don't need anything at all (maybe dhcdcd).