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"Those false credentials are all the students need to stay in the country. Many seek jobs in the tech industry, and their degrees allow them to remain working i

"Those false credentials are all the students need to stay in the country. Many seek jobs in the tech industry, and their degrees allow them to remain working in the U.S. for years..." This quote says more to me about the companies hiring them and about degrees from any university than it does about NPU. If they aren't giving an education and people can still get jobs "for years" what exactly is the point of $200k education again?

alanwatts 10y ago
>If they aren't giving an education and people can still get jobs "for years" what exactly is the point of $200k education again? Its purpose is more symbolic than realistic. Symbols are easily faked. An example of this is how Frank Abagnale was able to fake having gone to medical, law, and flight school, among many other things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale
- WalterBright 10y ago
  Yeah, but Abagnale never tried to fly an airplane.
  - slavik81 10y ago
    Wikipedia says he was sometimes invited by the actual pilot to take the controls. Presumably that was just holding it steady. Apparently, he knew enough to switch it to autopilot. He also didn't do a very good job as a doctor (supervising the residents doing the actual work). Wikipedia mentions that a baby nearly died because he didn't understand what the nurse was talking about.
sevensor 10y ago
You can spend $200k and master beer pong, or you can spend $200k and learn how to make analytical / computational models of real-world problems. A lot of people split the difference. Either way, you get the same degree, and employers seem unable to differentiate. The university system has already debased the currency, so forgery doesn't bite as keenly.
mewfree 10y ago
The only point is getting a work permit/a legal way to stay in the US.
Kinnard 10y ago
Higher Education in America is largely chicanery like noble titles before the French Revolution: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11756804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11756804

alanwatts 10y ago

>If they aren't giving an education and people can still get jobs "for years" what exactly is the point of $200k education again? Its purpose is more symbolic than realistic. Symbols are easily faked. An example of this is how Frank Abagnale was able to fake having gone to medical, law, and flight school, among many other things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale

WalterBright 10y ago
Yeah, but Abagnale never tried to fly an airplane.
- slavik81 10y ago
  Wikipedia says he was sometimes invited by the actual pilot to take the controls. Presumably that was just holding it steady. Apparently, he knew enough to switch it to autopilot. He also didn't do a very good job as a doctor (supervising the residents doing the actual work). Wikipedia mentions that a baby nearly died because he didn't understand what the nurse was talking about.

sevensor 10y ago

You can spend $200k and master beer pong, or you can spend $200k and learn how to make analytical / computational models of real-world problems. A lot of people split the difference. Either way, you get the same degree, and employers seem unable to differentiate. The university system has already debased the currency, so forgery doesn't bite as keenly.

mewfree 10y ago

The only point is getting a work permit/a legal way to stay in the US.

Kinnard 10y ago

Higher Education in America is largely chicanery like noble titles before the French Revolution: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11756804 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11756804