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I said it's unfair to single out and potentially antagonize a group while the problem is more prevalent across many different groups. I don't see any contradict

I said it's unfair to single out and potentially antagonize a group while the problem is more prevalent across many different groups. I don't see any contradiction here. Sorry...

ISL 10y ago
Indeed. The concern is that anyone's successfully cheating, not where they're from.
- Ivannahack 10y ago
  I'd say the concern is Chinese, but it's a systemic problem rather than a concern about any individual's morals or honesty. Here's a great, sad documentary on the hollowness of the Chinese dream's cycle of expectation, lack of regulation and general chaos of creating unrealistic expectations for millions. Highly recommend watching it. "Education, Education: Why Poverty" http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/education-education/ http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/education-education/
  - studentrob 10y ago
    What a touching documentary that shows a different side to the plight of Chinese students. Thank you for sharing it. The same system exists in America. The US version of this documentary is College, Inc [1] The whole exchange between parents who want the best for their kids, teachers who are pushing a sub-par education at their private schools that they know takes advantage of poorer students, pre-enrollment students who will do anything to find a job, and graduated students who can see that this education hasn't opened any doors, is easy to see through this documentary. I wonder whether this film is viewable within China or not The teacher explaining how his school isn't worth it, particularly for the poor, is heartbreakingly honest [2] The part when she sings a song about what happened to her hands when she was a child is both sad and happy [3] Also interesting to learn about the term "Ant Tribe", that is, kids who can't find a job after school [4] [1] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/collegeinc/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/collegeinc/ [2] https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=50m32s https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=50m32s [3] https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=55m50s https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=55m50s [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_tribe

I said it's unfair to single out and potentially antagonize a group while the problem is more prevalent across many different groups. I don't see any contradiction here. Sorry...

ISL 10y ago

Indeed. The concern is that anyone's successfully cheating, not where they're from.

Ivannahack 10y ago
I'd say the concern is Chinese, but it's a systemic problem rather than a concern about any individual's morals or honesty. Here's a great, sad documentary on the hollowness of the Chinese dream's cycle of expectation, lack of regulation and general chaos of creating unrealistic expectations for millions. Highly recommend watching it. "Education, Education: Why Poverty" http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/education-education/ http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/education-education/
- studentrob 10y ago
  What a touching documentary that shows a different side to the plight of Chinese students. Thank you for sharing it. The same system exists in America. The US version of this documentary is College, Inc [1] The whole exchange between parents who want the best for their kids, teachers who are pushing a sub-par education at their private schools that they know takes advantage of poorer students, pre-enrollment students who will do anything to find a job, and graduated students who can see that this education hasn't opened any doors, is easy to see through this documentary. I wonder whether this film is viewable within China or not The teacher explaining how his school isn't worth it, particularly for the poor, is heartbreakingly honest [2] The part when she sings a song about what happened to her hands when she was a child is both sad and happy [3] Also interesting to learn about the term "Ant Tribe", that is, kids who can't find a job after school [4] [1] http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/collegeinc/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/collegeinc/ [2] https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=50m32s https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=50m32s [3] https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=55m50s https://youtu.be/BP61LwODTnY?t=55m50s [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_tribe