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Public service pay cuts? Not really. This is for CA, but other states are not too far off. http://publicpay.ca.gov/ http://publicpay.ca.gov/ And don't forget

by jazzyk 10y ago

Public service pay cuts? Not really. This is for CA, but other states are not too far off. http://publicpay.ca.gov/ http://publicpay.ca.gov/ And don't forget life-long pensions at 80% salary. How many distinguished engineers make anywhere close to these amounts (whether public or private)? Close to zero.

cortesoft 10y ago
80k was the top bracket? I am pretty sure most developers in California make a lot more than that, especially top ones.
- jazzyk 10y ago
  Select "100 top salaries"
  - monknomo 10y ago
    But those seem mostly like chief investment officers, CEOs, doctors, dentists and surgeons... I mean, public service can pay well if you are a commissioner or head of a for-profit part of public service. I'm not sure there is much of a comparison to be made for software developers, though.
    - jazzyk 10y ago
      I was just pointing out that public service can pay as well as private sector - if not better (pensions at 80% pay!).
      - monknomo 10y ago
        Except for police and the already retired I don't think you see a lot of pensions at 80% pay anymore. FERS gives you 1.1%years of servicehigh 3 average salary, which is about 40% salary for a lifetime of service. The NYPD give 2.1%years of serviceaverage salary and early retirement at 20 years of service (less 50% social security upon that kicking in) which is a hell of a good deal, but hardly representative of what most government workers get. I think they are probably among the only 80% pay. You also end up with the (generally state) government worker problem of the government just deciding that paying your pension is expensive, and then having it reduced or removed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sdenton4 10y ago
Gazing over the top thousand salaries, the great majority seen to be medical workers in prisons. Which is pretty firmly in 'Nazi doctor' territory, so far as I'm concerned.
- tomjen3 10y ago
  I am almost falling out of my chair reading that comment. The only way a US prison doctor enters nazi territory is if they are doing a live donor liver transplant between twins.
- mac01021 10y ago
  Are you asserting that doctors and nurses in american prisons routinely perform dangerous medical experiments on inmates without their consent? If yes, can you cite a reference (I'd like to know about it)? If no, then what precisely do you mean?
  - sdenton4 10y ago
    I meant in the sense of the doctors in the concentration camps, providing some relief, but arguably sustaining an intrinsically immoral system. (Indeed, there were far worse kinda of Nazi doctors...)

by jazzyk 10y ago

cortesoft 10y ago

80k was the top bracket? I am pretty sure most developers in California make a lot more than that, especially top ones.

jazzyk 10y ago
Select "100 top salaries"
- monknomo 10y ago
  But those seem mostly like chief investment officers, CEOs, doctors, dentists and surgeons... I mean, public service can pay well if you are a commissioner or head of a for-profit part of public service. I'm not sure there is much of a comparison to be made for software developers, though.
  - jazzyk 10y ago
    I was just pointing out that public service can pay as well as private sector - if not better (pensions at 80% pay!).
    - monknomo 10y ago
      Except for police and the already retired I don't think you see a lot of pensions at 80% pay anymore. FERS gives you 1.1%years of servicehigh 3 average salary, which is about 40% salary for a lifetime of service. The NYPD give 2.1%years of serviceaverage salary and early retirement at 20 years of service (less 50% social security upon that kicking in) which is a hell of a good deal, but hardly representative of what most government workers get. I think they are probably among the only 80% pay. You also end up with the (generally state) government worker problem of the government just deciding that paying your pension is expensive, and then having it reduced or removed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sdenton4 10y ago

Gazing over the top thousand salaries, the great majority seen to be medical workers in prisons. Which is pretty firmly in 'Nazi doctor' territory, so far as I'm concerned.

tomjen3 10y ago
I am almost falling out of my chair reading that comment. The only way a US prison doctor enters nazi territory is if they are doing a live donor liver transplant between twins.
mac01021 10y ago
Are you asserting that doctors and nurses in american prisons routinely perform dangerous medical experiments on inmates without their consent? If yes, can you cite a reference (I'd like to know about it)? If no, then what precisely do you mean?
- sdenton4 10y ago
  I meant in the sense of the doctors in the concentration camps, providing some relief, but arguably sustaining an intrinsically immoral system. (Indeed, there were far worse kinda of Nazi doctors...)