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Those F2P games are in a whole different league of replayability compared to Monument Valley. I played through MV once. The F2P games you refer to are endless c

Those F2P games are in a whole different league of replayability compared to Monument Valley. I played through MV once. The F2P games you refer to are endless competitions.

Splines 10y ago
Theoretically, yes. But I've played plenty of F2P games without dumping a single cent in, eventually hit the paywall and delete the game. (I think the minute you pay a single penny into the game, sunk cost fallacy sets in, so I avoid starting that in the first place).
- sleepychu 10y ago
  Is that "I already spent Xk$ for that to have been worthwhile I really should buy this other thing for y$?"
  - Splines 10y ago
    Pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if F2P games price their offerings to get people "on the treadmill". As they progress through the game it starts requiring more and more money to sustain your current pace.
    - sleepychu 10y ago
      This task is supposed to take you 1 day but we'll let you skip to playing the game for 0.10$!
hueving 10y ago
True, from a gamer's perspective those games are trash, but unfortunately studios discovered it's much easier to make money selling cocaine rather than a fine cuisine.
- vacri 10y ago
  The same is true of movies. The regurgative crap pulls in the bux, so that's what's made. It makes more sense when you think of the industry as a business rather than a charity.
- Shivetya 10y ago
  Whoa there. We cannot fall into the trap of slandering the competition to excuse ourselves for not doing as well. I have never played the game in question, in fact hadn't heard about it till today; guess I don't get out much. Its apparent that the definition of gamers isn't what some suspect it to be. Which means, which segment are you aiming for and are you hitting it. Again, make sure you are hitting where you want to and don't use the low sales as proof.
- rtpg 10y ago
  I think it's more like the difference between Chess and Magic The Gathering. One is based on some sense of immutability, another is the result of constant iteration and community. Just because they both end up being games doesn't mean they serve the same purpose
  - chongli 10y ago
    Immutability? Chess has tens of thousands of books written on all facets of the game. Its strategies have evolved over a period of centuries of study and development by countless players who have since lent their names, cities, or countries to those lines. Now, with the aid of computers, the game evolves at a faster rate than ever. What worked at one tournament may be refuted at the next! Chess is anything but immutable!
    - Crespyl 10y ago
      I think the distinction being made was more that Chess doesn't have weekly patch notes or pieces being added and removed on a regular basis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt8XnDfyTpc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt8XnDfyTpc
tomjen3 10y ago
Endless competitions and a few players that drops tens of thousands of dollars into free to pay games.
iwannayoyo 10y ago
That being said, I think the utility I get from each game is probably equivalent. Monument valley was an amazing experience, where as these games are several alright experiences that add up to about the same level of enjoyment.

Those F2P games are in a whole different league of replayability compared to Monument Valley. I played through MV once. The F2P games you refer to are endless competitions.

Splines 10y ago

Theoretically, yes. But I've played plenty of F2P games without dumping a single cent in, eventually hit the paywall and delete the game. (I think the minute you pay a single penny into the game, sunk cost fallacy sets in, so I avoid starting that in the first place).

sleepychu 10y ago
Is that "I already spent Xk$ for that to have been worthwhile I really should buy this other thing for y$?"
- Splines 10y ago
  Pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if F2P games price their offerings to get people "on the treadmill". As they progress through the game it starts requiring more and more money to sustain your current pace.
  - sleepychu 10y ago
    This task is supposed to take you 1 day but we'll let you skip to playing the game for 0.10$!

hueving 10y ago

True, from a gamer's perspective those games are trash, but unfortunately studios discovered it's much easier to make money selling cocaine rather than a fine cuisine.

vacri 10y ago
The same is true of movies. The regurgative crap pulls in the bux, so that's what's made. It makes more sense when you think of the industry as a business rather than a charity.
Shivetya 10y ago
Whoa there. We cannot fall into the trap of slandering the competition to excuse ourselves for not doing as well. I have never played the game in question, in fact hadn't heard about it till today; guess I don't get out much. Its apparent that the definition of gamers isn't what some suspect it to be. Which means, which segment are you aiming for and are you hitting it. Again, make sure you are hitting where you want to and don't use the low sales as proof.
rtpg 10y ago
I think it's more like the difference between Chess and Magic The Gathering. One is based on some sense of immutability, another is the result of constant iteration and community. Just because they both end up being games doesn't mean they serve the same purpose
- chongli 10y ago
  Immutability? Chess has tens of thousands of books written on all facets of the game. Its strategies have evolved over a period of centuries of study and development by countless players who have since lent their names, cities, or countries to those lines. Now, with the aid of computers, the game evolves at a faster rate than ever. What worked at one tournament may be refuted at the next! Chess is anything but immutable!
  - Crespyl 10y ago
    I think the distinction being made was more that Chess doesn't have weekly patch notes or pieces being added and removed on a regular basis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt8XnDfyTpc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt8XnDfyTpc

tomjen3 10y ago

Endless competitions and a few players that drops tens of thousands of dollars into free to pay games.

iwannayoyo 10y ago

That being said, I think the utility I get from each game is probably equivalent. Monument valley was an amazing experience, where as these games are several alright experiences that add up to about the same level of enjoyment.