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"An emoji is a coloured glyph." OK. Stop right there. An emoji is a glyph, it need not be colored. The funny part, is that on my system and my fonts, all the e

by chungy 10y ago

"An emoji is a coloured glyph." OK. Stop right there. An emoji is a glyph, it need not be colored. The funny part, is that on my system and my fonts, all the examples (not provided as PNGs) are plain black-and-white renderings with the Symbola font. Even on Chrome on Linux, I don't even see the Canadian flag example she shows. Really, most of this seems solid but it continues a rather annoying trend of assuming that Apple's font are the emoji. At least she recognizes that other fonts exist, but carries on this assumption...

gcb0 10y ago
emoji are apple and google (and late to the party, adobe) way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else. they are using their monopoly to push the utf groups, just like microsoft did with w3c when using IE6 monopoly. at least emoji cause less damage.
- thaumasiotes 10y ago
  > emoji are apple and google (and late to the party, adobe)['s] way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else Sure, that's why we refer to them with a Japanese word.
- bitwize 10y ago
  More like SoftBank and NTT DoCoMo's way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else. Emoji started off as being proprietary to Japanese cellphone carriers, and got picked up by Apple when they realized they could make a killing by smoothly transitioning Japanese users to their platform.
  - gcb0 10y ago
    rigth. maybe in the 90s. now its mostly dictated by apple and google.
riobard 10y ago
Well, this argument is dead when the skin tone variations are introduced. Now they have to be colored to be politically correct.
Dylan16807 10y ago
> The funny part, is that on my system and my fonts, all the examples (not provided as PNGs) are plain black-and-white renderings with the Symbola font. Even on Chrome on Linux, I don't even see the Canadian flag example she shows. Yeah, same here. Is there any way to fix this on chrome/firefox without changing my operating system? Because an OS requirement for a browser to render fonts properly is completely ridiculous.
the_mitsuhiko 10y ago
Pretty sure emoji are the only glyphs that can be colored.
- petercooper 10y ago
  Until recently, yes, but OpenType has been introducing support for colored glyphs: https://bixacolor.com/ https://bixacolor.com/

by chungy 10y ago

gcb0 10y ago

emoji are apple and google (and late to the party, adobe) way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else. they are using their monopoly to push the utf groups, just like microsoft did with w3c when using IE6 monopoly. at least emoji cause less damage.

thaumasiotes 10y ago
> emoji are apple and google (and late to the party, adobe)['s] way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else Sure, that's why we refer to them with a Japanese word.
bitwize 10y ago
More like SoftBank and NTT DoCoMo's way of enforcing their wishes on everyone else. Emoji started off as being proprietary to Japanese cellphone carriers, and got picked up by Apple when they realized they could make a killing by smoothly transitioning Japanese users to their platform.
- gcb0 10y ago
  rigth. maybe in the 90s. now its mostly dictated by apple and google.

riobard 10y ago

Well, this argument is dead when the skin tone variations are introduced. Now they have to be colored to be politically correct.

Dylan16807 10y ago

> The funny part, is that on my system and my fonts, all the examples (not provided as PNGs) are plain black-and-white renderings with the Symbola font. Even on Chrome on Linux, I don't even see the Canadian flag example she shows. Yeah, same here. Is there any way to fix this on chrome/firefox without changing my operating system? Because an OS requirement for a browser to render fonts properly is completely ridiculous.

the_mitsuhiko 10y ago

Pretty sure emoji are the only glyphs that can be colored.

petercooper 10y ago
Until recently, yes, but OpenType has been introducing support for colored glyphs: https://bixacolor.com/ https://bixacolor.com/