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What bugs me is that Google gave itself a pass by white-listing YouTube - because it turns out some people still need Flash on YouTube. Google should dog-food t

What bugs me is that Google gave itself a pass by white-listing YouTube - because it turns out some people still need Flash on YouTube. Google should dog-food their own policies.

IIlllIllIIIIlII 10y ago
Likewise, Google penalizes webpages by size. A 3 megabyte page gets a larger penalty than a 1 megabyte, which has a larger penalty than a 1 kB page. But, they give themselves a free pass, as their own "webpage guidelines" page is 3.4 megabytes long! But, even worse, it has a video on a carousel that repeatedly downloads the video whenever it restarts the video loop.
- josefresco 10y ago
  How do you know they give their own web page a pass? It could be scored low and Google just doesn't care, or like all of us, has other priorities. The fact that Google recommends lightweight pages, and still builds heavy pages is contradicting, but doesn't mean they've built in some sort of "whitelist" for their own sites.
  - IIlllIllIIIIlII 10y ago
    How about, "Google doesn't do what it makes others do" which is true whether they give a boost to themselves or not.
    - Dylan16807 10y ago
      Google doesn't make websites be lightweight. Heavy websites get indexed just like any other. If they want to make a heavy page and accept the penalty, there's nothing wrong with that.
hsivonen 10y ago
Are there parts of YouTube that require Flash in Chrome other than legacy embeds on non-YouTube sites that enable the embedding page to script the Flash embed via a JS API?
- macspoofing 10y ago
  >other than legacy embeds on non-YouTube sites that enable the embedding page to script the Flash embed via a JS API That's probably it. Then again, it's not just Google that has to deal with legacy applications. So yeah, if you're going to shove this policy in the name of open standards, dog-food it and deal with the same pain countless of companies will have to.
- pbtflakes 10y ago
  From what I recall, videos that are long enough (such as NASCAR replays) require the flash player.

What bugs me is that Google gave itself a pass by white-listing YouTube - because it turns out some people still need Flash on YouTube. Google should dog-food their own policies.

IIlllIllIIIIlII 10y ago

Likewise, Google penalizes webpages by size. A 3 megabyte page gets a larger penalty than a 1 megabyte, which has a larger penalty than a 1 kB page. But, they give themselves a free pass, as their own "webpage guidelines" page is 3.4 megabytes long! But, even worse, it has a video on a carousel that repeatedly downloads the video whenever it restarts the video loop.

josefresco 10y ago
How do you know they give their own web page a pass? It could be scored low and Google just doesn't care, or like all of us, has other priorities. The fact that Google recommends lightweight pages, and still builds heavy pages is contradicting, but doesn't mean they've built in some sort of "whitelist" for their own sites.
- IIlllIllIIIIlII 10y ago
  How about, "Google doesn't do what it makes others do" which is true whether they give a boost to themselves or not.
  - Dylan16807 10y ago
    Google doesn't make websites be lightweight. Heavy websites get indexed just like any other. If they want to make a heavy page and accept the penalty, there's nothing wrong with that.

hsivonen 10y ago

Are there parts of YouTube that require Flash in Chrome other than legacy embeds on non-YouTube sites that enable the embedding page to script the Flash embed via a JS API?

macspoofing 10y ago
>other than legacy embeds on non-YouTube sites that enable the embedding page to script the Flash embed via a JS API That's probably it. Then again, it's not just Google that has to deal with legacy applications. So yeah, if you're going to shove this policy in the name of open standards, dog-food it and deal with the same pain countless of companies will have to.
pbtflakes 10y ago
From what I recall, videos that are long enough (such as NASCAR replays) require the flash player.