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Partnering with Microsoft to run Jenkins infrastructure on Azure

66 points by dstaheli 10y ago

thinkpad20 10y ago
Anyone else trying to read this on mobile? The text is tiny and zooming in causes the side divs to expand and cover the main text. :(
- h43k3r 10y ago
  Yes it is. but I can easily zoom and then read it easily
- AndrewDucker 10y ago
  Firefox mobile's reading mode worked perfectly for me.
mrmondo 10y ago
/vent I don't see what's interesting or really even positively relevant here in 2016. Jenkins was a very important part of what accelerated the early progression on high performance product delivery, but it's not exactly something to aspire to run, nor is it in any way a measure or sign of technological advance to be able or even suitable to run the application. I don't think any level of integration would make this favourable solution. One of Microsofts weaknesses that has only really recently become blatantly obvious publicly is their poor ability to integrate. Having a monopoly on file formats and the such got them a huge wave to ride but they are more of a holdings company stumbling than anything. Their offerings are less than nimble and news like this in 2016 only exists because they're reaching for any public opportunities to make themselves appear relevant. Just look at O365, SharePoint Online etc... They're truly awful to use if required to do so on a regular basis, the sheer latency of those product interfaces alone should be enough to make anyone weary but when you start digging into their network and see how broken their infrastructure is, is damn right scary. They fail to provide reliable network routes, have widespread internal DNS issues and data replication mismatches. Ending my rant here but it damn cheeses me when people fall for the flashy brochure - it's their job to take your money, that is the mission - they don't care about you. /vent *edit: spelling, I'm half asleep
- anewhnaccount 10y ago
  I just installed Jenkins 2 today and in my opinion, while it still has a way to go to meet the ease of use of best of the various SaaS options now available, it has improved leaps and bounds.
  - phunge 10y ago
    Which are the best of the SaaS options? Just curious -- I'm not happy with CircleCI or Travis right now.
    - throwanem 10y ago
      Bamboo is expensive, but worth it. Jenkins is a pale shadow by comparison, although I agree that Jenkins 2 is a lot better than 1.x.
    - Klathmon 10y ago
      If you don't mind me asking, what are your biggest complaints with Circle or Travis? My work might be looking for a CI provider and those 2 are the first ones that come to mind.
      - phunge 10y ago
        I actually like Travis quite a lot except for one issue! At work we use docker for builds, and neither tool can build docker images in such a way that the docker layer cache is utilized. For more details: https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358 https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358, https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers, https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316 https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316. This makes our CI builds painfully slow. It's not entirely CircleCI or Travis's fault, it's the interaction between them and docker.
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stonewhite 10y ago
Good news! Azure CDN integration for plugins will hopefully solve plugin repository outages that result in half-updates and pulled-out hair.
api 10y ago
You could already run Jenkins on Azure just fine. This announces a business partnership but I don't understand what other implications there are. It seems to me that the big three cloud providers are trying very hard to decommoditize themselves by becoming semi-proprietary platforms. In some cases, such as AWS databases or Microsoft's machine learning APIs, there is a lot of reality there. But in most other cases it's not terribly hard to achieve the same thing with open software on commodity cloud servers.

66 points by dstaheli 10y ago

Anyone else trying to read this on mobile? The text is tiny and zooming in causes the side divs to expand and cover the main text. :(

h43k3r 10y ago
Yes it is. but I can easily zoom and then read it easily
AndrewDucker 10y ago
Firefox mobile's reading mode worked perfectly for me.

mrmondo 10y ago

/vent I don't see what's interesting or really even positively relevant here in 2016. Jenkins was a very important part of what accelerated the early progression on high performance product delivery, but it's not exactly something to aspire to run, nor is it in any way a measure or sign of technological advance to be able or even suitable to run the application. I don't think any level of integration would make this favourable solution. One of Microsofts weaknesses that has only really recently become blatantly obvious publicly is their poor ability to integrate. Having a monopoly on file formats and the such got them a huge wave to ride but they are more of a holdings company stumbling than anything. Their offerings are less than nimble and news like this in 2016 only exists because they're reaching for any public opportunities to make themselves appear relevant. Just look at O365, SharePoint Online etc... They're truly awful to use if required to do so on a regular basis, the sheer latency of those product interfaces alone should be enough to make anyone weary but when you start digging into their network and see how broken their infrastructure is, is damn right scary. They fail to provide reliable network routes, have widespread internal DNS issues and data replication mismatches. Ending my rant here but it damn cheeses me when people fall for the flashy brochure - it's their job to take your money, that is the mission - they don't care about you. /vent *edit: spelling, I'm half asleep

anewhnaccount 10y ago
I just installed Jenkins 2 today and in my opinion, while it still has a way to go to meet the ease of use of best of the various SaaS options now available, it has improved leaps and bounds.
- phunge 10y ago
  Which are the best of the SaaS options? Just curious -- I'm not happy with CircleCI or Travis right now.
  - throwanem 10y ago
    Bamboo is expensive, but worth it. Jenkins is a pale shadow by comparison, although I agree that Jenkins 2 is a lot better than 1.x.
  - Klathmon 10y ago
    If you don't mind me asking, what are your biggest complaints with Circle or Travis? My work might be looking for a CI provider and those 2 are the first ones that come to mind.
    - phunge 10y ago
      I actually like Travis quite a lot except for one issue! At work we use docker for builds, and neither tool can build docker images in such a way that the docker layer cache is utilized. For more details: https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358 https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/5358, https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers https://circleci.com/docs/docker/#caching-docker-layers, https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316 https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/20316. This makes our CI builds painfully slow. It's not entirely CircleCI or Travis's fault, it's the interaction between them and docker.
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stonewhite 10y ago

Good news! Azure CDN integration for plugins will hopefully solve plugin repository outages that result in half-updates and pulled-out hair.

api 10y ago

You could already run Jenkins on Azure just fine. This announces a business partnership but I don't understand what other implications there are. It seems to me that the big three cloud providers are trying very hard to decommoditize themselves by becoming semi-proprietary platforms. In some cases, such as AWS databases or Microsoft's machine learning APIs, there is a lot of reality there. But in most other cases it's not terribly hard to achieve the same thing with open software on commodity cloud servers.