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I wonder how effective systems like https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ are against this. Will we all be putting on masks or face-paint in the future wh

I wonder how effective systems like https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ are against this. Will we all be putting on masks or face-paint in the future when we go outside?

coleca 10y ago
You would need to somehow convince the population that looks are no longer important, or that somehow looking like you were a member of the band Kiss is now a popular look. It's not impossible, fashion changes all the time.
Chris2048 10y ago
Maybe start a movement?
lafay 10y ago
~10 years ago I was at Disneyland and saw this family all decked out in really elaborate face paint. At the time I thought "How cool!" Then several months later I realized it was Heidi Klum and Seal after I saw them on the cover of a supermarket tabloid. Granted, the face paint was probably to disguise themselves from the paparazzi and autograph requests rather than AI facial recognition. But perhaps prescient nonetheless. http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/upl0/0/88/08_2008/080219-heidiseal/i/Heidi-Seal-All-Kiddies-Face-Paint-Disney-Fanatics.jpg http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/upl0/0/88/08_2008/08...
3v3rt 10y ago
Whenever I see some of these 'countermeasures' I usually run them through some high end commercial face recognition algorithms I have access to. In many of the cases the countermeasures are completely ineffective. They may fool some things like opencv DIY algorithms, but not the expensive stuff :). For those the most effective strategy is to just tilt your head to the left or right a lot, though that will possibly give you a sore neck and you'll definitely look silly.
- bsenftner 10y ago
  just shave off your eyebrows, or makeup to make them appear gone. Most (nearly all) facial feature finders expect eyebrows of some kind. (I work in facial recognition.)
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  > just tilt your head to the left or right a lot That seems like an trivially simple thing to defeat from a code perspective.
- awqrre 10y ago
  Or just wear an Islamic veil with some sunglasses?
soared 10y ago
Maybe this is why fashion is so absurd and over the top in sci-fi! Crazy fashion hides your face and body characteristics from being identified.

I wonder how effective systems like https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ are against this. Will we all be putting on masks or face-paint in the future when we go outside?

coleca 10y ago

You would need to somehow convince the population that looks are no longer important, or that somehow looking like you were a member of the band Kiss is now a popular look. It's not impossible, fashion changes all the time.

Chris2048 10y ago

Maybe start a movement?

lafay 10y ago

~10 years ago I was at Disneyland and saw this family all decked out in really elaborate face paint. At the time I thought "How cool!" Then several months later I realized it was Heidi Klum and Seal after I saw them on the cover of a supermarket tabloid. Granted, the face paint was probably to disguise themselves from the paparazzi and autograph requests rather than AI facial recognition. But perhaps prescient nonetheless. http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/upl0/0/88/08_2008/080219-heidiseal/i/Heidi-Seal-All-Kiddies-Face-Paint-Disney-Fanatics.jpg http://media2.popsugar-assets.com/files/upl0/0/88/08_2008/08...

3v3rt 10y ago

Whenever I see some of these 'countermeasures' I usually run them through some high end commercial face recognition algorithms I have access to. In many of the cases the countermeasures are completely ineffective. They may fool some things like opencv DIY algorithms, but not the expensive stuff :). For those the most effective strategy is to just tilt your head to the left or right a lot, though that will possibly give you a sore neck and you'll definitely look silly.

bsenftner 10y ago
just shave off your eyebrows, or makeup to make them appear gone. Most (nearly all) facial feature finders expect eyebrows of some kind. (I work in facial recognition.)
pavel_lishin 10y ago
> just tilt your head to the left or right a lot That seems like an trivially simple thing to defeat from a code perspective.
awqrre 10y ago
Or just wear an Islamic veil with some sunglasses?

soared 10y ago

Maybe this is why fashion is so absurd and over the top in sci-fi! Crazy fashion hides your face and body characteristics from being identified.