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Python, ruby, php, scheme, c, c++, java. Any ideas how quickly I could make the money off of something like elance (or how quickly you could, since we don't kn

Python, ruby, php, scheme, c, c++, java. Any ideas how quickly I could make the money off of something like elance (or how quickly you could, since we don't know our relative coding speeds)? Likewise for Mechanical Turk?

Concours 17y ago
hmm, it depends, I really can't tell you as it depends, the problem with the freelance boards is the reputation, you need to build a reputation to have good projects there. On mecanical Turk, you can start rright away, but you will not earn the world there, and I doubt you will earn 400 $ from it. Just drop me a mail at: djachao (at) yahoo.de , I may have something for you.
eam 17y ago
Don't use elance, you have to pay to bid and usually you never get hire for a gig. Instead you might want to try oDesk, I go on there when I have nothing to do and I usually get gigs within hours.
- ciupicri 17y ago
  I'm no a fan of elance, but at least you can search for jobs without registering, whereas oDesk seems to force me to register.
- nfriedly 17y ago
  Elance is free for the basic level these days. I think you get to bid on 3 jobs per month for free, after that you have to pay (weather your bids are accepted or not). Where you really pay is that elance takes something like 5-10% of whatever you earn for the job. That said, I created an account and scored relatively highly on a few of the tests a while back. I've gotten invited to submit proposals for jobs on a regular basis ever since. (For example, I received 7 invitations last month.) I usually turn down the invitations, as I have plenty of work, but one of my favorite clients found me through elance.
benatkin 17y ago
Here's an account of someone using the Mechanical Turk: http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/05/can-you-actually-earn-reasonable-money-from-mechanical-turk/ http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/05/can-you-actually-e... If it's like it was back then, I think you might be able to make $400 on it in a month. Not the quickest or most fun way to do it, though. I like the eBook idea.
adamt 17y ago
I would recommend elance. From the other side of the fence - We hire a lot of people off elance (currently spending about $6k per week). I think it's a great way for people from lower-cost countries who are competent and with good english to be able to earn money. It also works pretty well for us with what we do. From a supplier point of view, there's two options - either going for fixed price bids for projects, or for bidding for stuff on an hourly basis. In terms of rates we average about $20 an hour for top quality C++ stuff, about $17 for good Django/Python and about $12 for web-design/HTML. You need to subtract elance fees. But if you're good - it wouldn't be hard to earn a lot more than your target without having to work too hard.
- RACNicole 16y ago
  Hi, this is Nicole from Rent a Coder. I'd like to point out a few differences between our service and Elance since those differences could influence your satisfaction and earnings. === Cost: === The more a site charges you, the less you have to put in your own pocket at paycheck time. Unlike Elance, Rent A Coder does not charge you a monthly subscription fee for any bidding or certification privileges. 1) Free and unlimited bidding and certification privileges ------------------- Workers on Elance cannot place more than 10 bids a month unless they pay a subscription fee ($10/month for 25, $20/month for 40 or $40/month for 60). They also cannot be certified in over 5 areas without paying the same fee. Rent A Coder does not charge any subscription fees. === Working with a new buyer on Pay-for-Deliverables projects: === The cheapest and easiest way to work with a buyer is to bill by the hour (called pay-for-time). However, a new buyer doesn't know yet that you're productive, and won't run up a huge bill with fluff hours. To help you establish that trust, both Elance and Rent A Coder let you work with them safely by bidding a fixed price for the final deliverables (called pay-for-deliverables). However, Elance's extra charges for arbitration may make it prohibitively expensive to exercise your rights. 2) Payment Guarantee ------------------ If a buyer doesn't pay you for work you've properly delivered, both sites will step in and give you the funds via arbitration. However Rent A Coder does this for free. If a buyer doesn't pay you for work you've properly delivered, both sites will step in and give you the funds via arbitration. However Elance charges you $66-$133 to do this. This may also make it impractical to get paid on smaller projects. Rent A Coder, on the other hand, does this for free. 3) Arbitration --- On Rent A Coder you can start arbitration immediately. A buyer intent on abusing the system can stall the start of arbitration on Elance for 21 business days and during this period your money is not available to you. During the first phase (dispute assistance), the buyer has up to 3 business days to respond, and can make this phase last up to 12 additional business days (15 business days total). After this, the arbitration phase 'begins', but does actually start because the buyer is given 3 business days to acknowledge the notice of arbitration, and the another 3 business days if they did not acknowledge the first notice. Only at this point is arbitration actually started. See the Elance contract for more information. === Working with a buyer you know on Pay-for-Time projects: === Once a buyer trusts that you won't bill them for unproductive hours, you can bill them by the hour (called pay-for-time). This has many advantages over pay-for-deliverables including cheaper fees, flexibility (you don't have to define all the requirements in advance to start working) and less risk (under-estimates are no longer your responsibility to bear). However Rent A Coder guarantees payment, while Elance does not. 4) Guraranteed Payment ------ Rent A Coder guarantees payment for every hour you properly record in the AccuTimeCard. It also requires the buyer to escrow the funds for the week in advance to make sure they are good for the money. If they try to withhold payment unfairly, Rent A Coder will award you the funds. Elance does not force the buyer to escrow funds on pay-for-time projects. As a result, it does not guarantee payment, and you may do the work and receive less than you agree (or nothing at all). Rent A Coder does guarantee payment. There are other differences as well. I invite everyone to compare the 7 major services through this link to learn even more: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/misc/CompetitorInformation/WhyRentACoder_ForSellers.aspx http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/misc/CompetitorI... If you have any questions, please let me know. You can also call in to talk to a facilitator 7 days a week, or email us (see http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/Feedback.asp http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/Feedback.asp). Nicole www.rentacoder.com
tcc619 17y ago
Get paid for doing open source code. It'll give you good karma and internet points. Definitely give you the 400 a month you need. We just started our open source task site but there are two notable tasks for the languages you listed: Fix Audio Sync against Video in live555.cpp, $500 http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/fix-audio-sync-against-video-in-live555-cpp http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/fix-audio-sync-against-video-i... Nokogiri pure-Java version for JRuby, >$600 http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/nokogiri-pure-java-version-for-jruby http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/nokogiri-pure-java-version-for... the nokogiri problem's been around and people are dying for a good solution!
- sailormoon 17y ago
  Wow, I had been wishing for a site just like that - because I want to use it! Happy to see I don't have to build it : )

Concours 17y ago

hmm, it depends, I really can't tell you as it depends, the problem with the freelance boards is the reputation, you need to build a reputation to have good projects there. On mecanical Turk, you can start rright away, but you will not earn the world there, and I doubt you will earn 400 $ from it. Just drop me a mail at: djachao (at) yahoo.de , I may have something for you.

eam 17y ago

Don't use elance, you have to pay to bid and usually you never get hire for a gig. Instead you might want to try oDesk, I go on there when I have nothing to do and I usually get gigs within hours.

ciupicri 17y ago
I'm no a fan of elance, but at least you can search for jobs without registering, whereas oDesk seems to force me to register.
nfriedly 17y ago
Elance is free for the basic level these days. I think you get to bid on 3 jobs per month for free, after that you have to pay (weather your bids are accepted or not). Where you really pay is that elance takes something like 5-10% of whatever you earn for the job. That said, I created an account and scored relatively highly on a few of the tests a while back. I've gotten invited to submit proposals for jobs on a regular basis ever since. (For example, I received 7 invitations last month.) I usually turn down the invitations, as I have plenty of work, but one of my favorite clients found me through elance.

benatkin 17y ago

Here's an account of someone using the Mechanical Turk: http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/05/can-you-actually-earn-reasonable-money-from-mechanical-turk/ http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/07/05/can-you-actually-e... If it's like it was back then, I think you might be able to make $400 on it in a month. Not the quickest or most fun way to do it, though. I like the eBook idea.

adamt 17y ago

I would recommend elance. From the other side of the fence - We hire a lot of people off elance (currently spending about $6k per week). I think it's a great way for people from lower-cost countries who are competent and with good english to be able to earn money. It also works pretty well for us with what we do. From a supplier point of view, there's two options - either going for fixed price bids for projects, or for bidding for stuff on an hourly basis. In terms of rates we average about $20 an hour for top quality C++ stuff, about $17 for good Django/Python and about $12 for web-design/HTML. You need to subtract elance fees. But if you're good - it wouldn't be hard to earn a lot more than your target without having to work too hard.

RACNicole 16y ago
Hi, this is Nicole from Rent a Coder. I'd like to point out a few differences between our service and Elance since those differences could influence your satisfaction and earnings. === Cost: === The more a site charges you, the less you have to put in your own pocket at paycheck time. Unlike Elance, Rent A Coder does not charge you a monthly subscription fee for any bidding or certification privileges. 1) Free and unlimited bidding and certification privileges ------------------- Workers on Elance cannot place more than 10 bids a month unless they pay a subscription fee ($10/month for 25, $20/month for 40 or $40/month for 60). They also cannot be certified in over 5 areas without paying the same fee. Rent A Coder does not charge any subscription fees. === Working with a new buyer on Pay-for-Deliverables projects: === The cheapest and easiest way to work with a buyer is to bill by the hour (called pay-for-time). However, a new buyer doesn't know yet that you're productive, and won't run up a huge bill with fluff hours. To help you establish that trust, both Elance and Rent A Coder let you work with them safely by bidding a fixed price for the final deliverables (called pay-for-deliverables). However, Elance's extra charges for arbitration may make it prohibitively expensive to exercise your rights. 2) Payment Guarantee ------------------ If a buyer doesn't pay you for work you've properly delivered, both sites will step in and give you the funds via arbitration. However Rent A Coder does this for free. If a buyer doesn't pay you for work you've properly delivered, both sites will step in and give you the funds via arbitration. However Elance charges you $66-$133 to do this. This may also make it impractical to get paid on smaller projects. Rent A Coder, on the other hand, does this for free. 3) Arbitration --- On Rent A Coder you can start arbitration immediately. A buyer intent on abusing the system can stall the start of arbitration on Elance for 21 business days and during this period your money is not available to you. During the first phase (dispute assistance), the buyer has up to 3 business days to respond, and can make this phase last up to 12 additional business days (15 business days total). After this, the arbitration phase 'begins', but does actually start because the buyer is given 3 business days to acknowledge the notice of arbitration, and the another 3 business days if they did not acknowledge the first notice. Only at this point is arbitration actually started. See the Elance contract for more information. === Working with a buyer you know on Pay-for-Time projects: === Once a buyer trusts that you won't bill them for unproductive hours, you can bill them by the hour (called pay-for-time). This has many advantages over pay-for-deliverables including cheaper fees, flexibility (you don't have to define all the requirements in advance to start working) and less risk (under-estimates are no longer your responsibility to bear). However Rent A Coder guarantees payment, while Elance does not. 4) Guraranteed Payment ------ Rent A Coder guarantees payment for every hour you properly record in the AccuTimeCard. It also requires the buyer to escrow the funds for the week in advance to make sure they are good for the money. If they try to withhold payment unfairly, Rent A Coder will award you the funds. Elance does not force the buyer to escrow funds on pay-for-time projects. As a result, it does not guarantee payment, and you may do the work and receive less than you agree (or nothing at all). Rent A Coder does guarantee payment. There are other differences as well. I invite everyone to compare the 7 major services through this link to learn even more: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/misc/CompetitorInformation/WhyRentACoder_ForSellers.aspx http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/misc/CompetitorI... If you have any questions, please let me know. You can also call in to talk to a facilitator 7 days a week, or email us (see http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/Feedback.asp http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/Feedback.asp). Nicole www.rentacoder.com

tcc619 17y ago

Get paid for doing open source code. It'll give you good karma and internet points. Definitely give you the 400 a month you need. We just started our open source task site but there are two notable tasks for the languages you listed: Fix Audio Sync against Video in live555.cpp, $500 http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/fix-audio-sync-against-video-in-live555-cpp http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/fix-audio-sync-against-video-i... Nokogiri pure-Java version for JRuby, >$600 http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/nokogiri-pure-java-version-for-jruby http://nextsprocket.com/tasks/nokogiri-pure-java-version-for... the nokogiri problem's been around and people are dying for a good solution!

sailormoon 17y ago
Wow, I had been wishing for a site just like that - because I want to use it! Happy to see I don't have to build it : )