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Same is true with music. There's a whole world of amazing music out there that never gets a second of radio play or mainstream exposure. Occasionally it shows u

by api 10y ago

Same is true with music. There's a whole world of amazing music out there that never gets a second of radio play or mainstream exposure. Occasionally it shows up in movie and TV scores but that's as close as it gets. Same goes for art, literature, etc. The great and ground breaking stuff is out there but you have to look for it. There is and probably always will be a pop "matrix" and a "Zion" known to those who stray.

fapjacks 10y ago
This I have always not understood. There is some amazing stuff out there. Even music from genres I hate that sounds amazing when I listen to it, so you know it has to just be incredible. But that kind of thing is not what the establishment in <art, music, literature, whatever> are pushing.
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  Confirmation bias. Or are you really saying that there's no pop music you think is good?
  - cJ0th 10y ago
    Well, that's exactly the problem: it is all "good" these days. However, the ability to rate something as good implies that we talk about something we know how to rate and this is the case because the sample size of "good" songs is so incredibly huge by now. In fact, the market is totally saturated with "good" music but nothing has come to replace it yet. Just look at yesterday's Eurovision Song Contest: The songs were rather generic but they were all "good". When OP talks about amazing stuff I think what s/he gets at is that there is music out there which literally causes amazement instead of a "yeah, this is good" nod. Current pop music isn't meant to amaze you. If anything it serves as a utility. I.e. it makes unfortunate situations, like a long commute to your dead end job, more bearable.
    - tommyman 10y ago
      good but no character. They are good in the sense that vocalists hit the notes they aim for (with or without autotuners), they are good in the sense that they have good harmonics, good rhythm etc. They just lack any kind of character. cookie-cutter songs from talented but unimaginative people. Their music lacks 'life'. I can't explain why but a good blues guitarist can strike a nerve just playing relatively simple licks if they do it well. It conveys a feeling that makes modern pop sound bland, lifeless, boring. There is no connection to the musician or the music. no soul. All said though music is a very much personal taste thing so each to their own. Today you will have 'I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie woo-oorld' stuck in your head. You're welcome :)
nostrademons 10y ago
A lot of it is popping up on YouTube, actually, in compilations. My new favorite work music is this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmZtTxgGyk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmZtTxgGyk
sreenadh 10y ago
Honestly, even I was just thinking today the amount of garbage that has become radio today. Everyone just keep playing the same list of crappy songs by few artist, that I do not even understand why they are famous. Many times, when I switch the channel to escape a crappy song, the next one is also playing it. Once the same nikki manaj song was playing in 4 channels, that was scary. I viewed radio as a medium to find new good songs and listen my favorite ones.
- maccard 10y ago
  > Once the same nikki manaj song was playing in 4 channels, that was scary I thought this too, until I realised that the 4 channels were actually broadcasting the same airing, albeit slightly out of sync.
ncarroll 10y ago
We listen to RadioParadise(.com). It's "new music" and "old music" that pretty much dances all over the Time and Styles matrix. The DJ, Bill Goldsmith has a real talent for delight and his eclectic choices make me smile every day. The forums over there are old-internet great too... ;-)

by api 10y ago

fapjacks 10y ago

This I have always not understood. There is some amazing stuff out there. Even music from genres I hate that sounds amazing when I listen to it, so you know it has to just be incredible. But that kind of thing is not what the establishment in <art, music, literature, whatever> are pushing.

Godel_unicode 10y ago
Confirmation bias. Or are you really saying that there's no pop music you think is good?
- cJ0th 10y ago
  Well, that's exactly the problem: it is all "good" these days. However, the ability to rate something as good implies that we talk about something we know how to rate and this is the case because the sample size of "good" songs is so incredibly huge by now. In fact, the market is totally saturated with "good" music but nothing has come to replace it yet. Just look at yesterday's Eurovision Song Contest: The songs were rather generic but they were all "good". When OP talks about amazing stuff I think what s/he gets at is that there is music out there which literally causes amazement instead of a "yeah, this is good" nod. Current pop music isn't meant to amaze you. If anything it serves as a utility. I.e. it makes unfortunate situations, like a long commute to your dead end job, more bearable.
  - tommyman 10y ago
    good but no character. They are good in the sense that vocalists hit the notes they aim for (with or without autotuners), they are good in the sense that they have good harmonics, good rhythm etc. They just lack any kind of character. cookie-cutter songs from talented but unimaginative people. Their music lacks 'life'. I can't explain why but a good blues guitarist can strike a nerve just playing relatively simple licks if they do it well. It conveys a feeling that makes modern pop sound bland, lifeless, boring. There is no connection to the musician or the music. no soul. All said though music is a very much personal taste thing so each to their own. Today you will have 'I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie woo-oorld' stuck in your head. You're welcome :)

nostrademons 10y ago

A lot of it is popping up on YouTube, actually, in compilations. My new favorite work music is this playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmZtTxgGyk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmZtTxgGyk

sreenadh 10y ago

Honestly, even I was just thinking today the amount of garbage that has become radio today. Everyone just keep playing the same list of crappy songs by few artist, that I do not even understand why they are famous. Many times, when I switch the channel to escape a crappy song, the next one is also playing it. Once the same nikki manaj song was playing in 4 channels, that was scary. I viewed radio as a medium to find new good songs and listen my favorite ones.

maccard 10y ago
> Once the same nikki manaj song was playing in 4 channels, that was scary I thought this too, until I realised that the 4 channels were actually broadcasting the same airing, albeit slightly out of sync.

ncarroll 10y ago

We listen to RadioParadise(.com). It's "new music" and "old music" that pretty much dances all over the Time and Styles matrix. The DJ, Bill Goldsmith has a real talent for delight and his eclectic choices make me smile every day. The forums over there are old-internet great too... ;-)