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AWS IoT Button
- braum 10y agoHave they updated the branded ones so you can't reuse them? otherwise why waste $20 when you can get one of the original branded versions for $5.
- jijojv 10y ago$20 is stupid https://www.google.com/search?q=dash+button+hack https://www.google.com/search?q=dash+button+hack
- exposite 10y agobt.tn: 69 EUR flic: 34 USD AWS IoT Button: 19.95 USD
- ceejayoz 10y agoThe branded ones are presumably subsidized by the brands they're labelled with, and getting them to do whatever you want is a fairly hacky process to my knowledge. $20 is pretty comparable to most of the IoT "do anything when pressed" stuff I've seen on Kickstarter and elsewhere. It'd be a handy "arm my security system" sort of thing for me.
- qq66 10y agoMy network is administered by the building, both at home and at work, so I wouldn't be able to change router config.
- shorodei 10y ago> The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses. When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery. This limits use cases to infrequent-press applications.
- trhway 10y agoBut also limits the damage :) https://twitter.com/AvidanRoss/status/727222223417667584?lang=en https://twitter.com/AvidanRoss/status/727222223417667584?lan... "Amazon dash button lost in my house is being tapped and ordering bulk paper towels. Time to hunt down a wifi signal."
- nathancahill 10y agohttps://twitter.com/InternetOfShit https://twitter.com/InternetOfShit
- sp332 10y agoAs pointed out in the comments there, the button will not ship a second order until the first one has been delivered. You will get a notification email each time it is activated so you can cancel an order. It's also trivial to deauth a particular button.
- evan_ 10y agoThis is interesting, since from teardowns it looks like there's literally just a AAA battery in there: https://mpetroff.net/2015/05/amazon-dash-button-teardown/ https://mpetroff.net/2015/05/amazon-dash-button-teardown/
- mdorazio 10y agoYup, but they decided to weld the contacts of the board to the battery. I'm guessing that they calculated it was cheaper (or more business savvy) to get users to replace the button every X months/years than to make the button in such a way that the battery is user replaceable and also indicates charge level.
- cyphar 10y agoI read the manual, hoping to see the punchline. This isn't ... real ... is it?
- lojack 10y agoPeople were hacking their Dash buttons to do this, and amazon was already producing the hardware and software, so why not monetize it?
- Hortinstein 10y agoin case anyone is interested I wrote a node.js module a while back to repurpose dash buttons not as elegant as their official IoT button, but it works (and dash buttons are 25% of the price) https://github.com/hortinstein/node-dash-button https://github.com/hortinstein/node-dash-button edit: corrected my tired beer math
- ben174 10y ago> and dash buttons are 4 times cheaper If they were four times cheaper, they'd be -$60. I think you meant they're 25% the price.
- JetSpiegel 10y agoThat's not how fractions work.
- pipeep 10y agoIt's much less polished, but instead of using pcap, I just configure dnsmasq on openwrt to call a shell script that uses wget to call an http endpoint on my computer: https://github.com/bgw/dash-button/blob/master/openwrt.sh https://github.com/bgw/dash-button/blob/master/openwrt.sh
- bound008 10y agoFWIW I tried following the instructions with a normal branded dash, and it is clear that the IoT button has a different firmware. Differences: * Amazon ConfigureMe network uses WPA2 for the IoT button. No encryption for the branded button. * IoT button has extra fields (according to the documentation) that the branded does not. They are for a certificate, private key, REST endpoint, region, and a checkbox to agree to TOC.
- AceJohnny2 10y agoI'm glad they accepted that people were already hacking [1] their cheap Dash buttons and decided to roll with it. It's 4 times more expensive than their hackable Dash buttons ($20 vs $5), but apparently more powerful (and secure?) from the get-go. [1] For example, see all the entries: https://hackaday.com/tag/amazon-dash/ https://hackaday.com/tag/amazon-dash/
- CharlesW 10y ago> It's 4 times more expensive than their hackable Dash buttons ($20 vs $5)… That's interesting. A new product like this (no matter how seemingly small) takes some work, so to me this suggests that people hacking the "subsidized" buttons were a bigger use case then they'd planned for.
- matt4077 10y agoIt's a button. Let's not use the same word, i. e. 'powerful', reserved for THE button. I also think it's quite ugly. I could imagine some repurposed giant old fire alarm for, say, code deploys. But not something that's reminicent of made in china ±10 years ago.
- wastedhours 10y agoWould also assume (even if not from a BoM perspective) that the standard Dash buttons are cheaper as they're subsidised by the sale of the products?
- dvcrn 10y agoAre there alternatives to this? It sadly seems like amazon has no plans to release it internationally anytime soon. I'm looking for a simple button that can just ping a URL in the simplest case. I'm looking at a raspi + button hardware right now but something already packaged with wifi would be a lot easier to use.
- blhack 10y agoESP8266 is what you want.
- detaro 10y agoHere are two DIY projects based on the ESP8266. Maybe somebody makes a similar kit as well, but I didn't find anything quickly. https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-button-888a87 https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-butt... https://hackaday.io/project/5673-esp8266-dash-button https://hackaday.io/project/5673-esp8266-dash-button
- moondev 10y agoparticle photon. Does input and output via GPIO just like raspi but with wifi onboard. https://store.particle.io/ https://store.particle.io/
- StavrosK 10y agoThe photon is way too expensive for these things. What you want is an ESP8266.
- StavrosK 10y agoHere's mine: https://www.stavros.io/posts/emergency-food-button/ https://www.stavros.io/posts/emergency-food-button/ You can also directly order a PCB, if you want, although you'll have to solder the components yourself.
- ecaron 10y agoSadly, there's no affordable simple button that exists that matches what you're looking for. I've been hunting for it for 6+ months. Competitors that I've been considering: * https://bt.tn/ https://bt.tn/ * https://www.particle.io/button https://www.particle.io/button * https://flic.io/ https://flic.io/ (would have to be paired with a nearby Pi) * http://www.dropletlife.com/ http://www.dropletlife.com/ (not yet available) My best recommendation would be build http://makeit.netflix.com/the-switch http://makeit.netflix.com/the-switch or go with the Particle option.
- jkahn 10y agoBummer, can't order this from Australia. Really want to get one of these for some testing. Anyone with inside info as to when these will be available outside the USA?
- alatkins 10y agoSure you can: http://www.borderlinx.com/AU/en/ http://www.borderlinx.com/AU/en/
- tony-allan 10y agoCould not find it in search. Also looks like it is for Amazon Prime members only. Borderlinx chat person said: "You are welcome. We can ship the item without any issue." but also "Regarding the Amazon prime membership issue please be advised to check further with merchant." This is the product page: http://www.amazon.com/AWS-IoT-Button-Limited-Programmable/dp/B01C7WE5WM http://www.amazon.com/AWS-IoT-Button-Limited-Programmable/dp...
- voltagex_ 10y agoAsk http://priceusa.com.au http://priceusa.com.au - I'm fairly sure their agent (in Oregon) uses Prime. Probably a ToS violation, though.
- jawns 10y ago"This item, sold by Amazon.com, is currently reserved exclusively for Prime members." So my price just went up from $20 to $120. There goes that.
- ecaron 10y agoI hacked one of these to power the nightlight in my kid's bedroom (https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights https://github.com/ecaron/hue-website-nightlights). The downside is that the button barely lasts for 1000 presses = 90 days (all kids like pushing buttons). And it is heart breaking because its just a AAA battery that they decided to solder in place... I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable battery. I'll either keep intercepting the ARP packets from the $5 unit or buy https://www.particle.io/button https://www.particle.io/button.
- libria 10y agoIs desoldering an option?
- tdicola 10y agoIt's tricky, metal tabs are soldered right to the battery terminals. It's a lithium battery so you don't want to heat it too much so desoldering will be annoying and potentially dangerous. What you can do instead is cut both tabs to remove the battery then solder wires to the tabs on the board and connect a proper battery holder. Might need to move the battery outside it since the holder + battery won't fit.
- fuzzygroove 10y agoFor folks who use words like "desolder" it's not tricky at all. This (and the Dash) come in a glued shell with a 1.5v Energizer Li AAA solder-welded to the back. Getting inside without completely destroying the curb-appeal takes a hex bit, some scraping, and a little patience. Once you get to the board, the battery is easily replaced with a LiPo. The MCU is 3.3v, but Amazon Prime has you covered on cheap LDO/buck converters (like, "a buck" converters).
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- Bombthecat 10y agoWait, what? So, we are basically moving from this which could last decades to stuff which stops working after 1000 presses? And people say we are not moving to planned obculence ( sorry, don't know the English word for it)
- svec 10y agoThis is a great gateway drug to learning & using AWS; smart move by Amazon.
- melvinmt 10y agoSo it's about $0.02 per click. That is a bit expensive.
- StavrosK 10y agoI know it's not as convenient as buying one of these, but it's really not very hard to make your own button, and it's a very fun project. Here's mine, which is also open source, including the PCB and things: https://www.stavros.io/posts/emergency-food-button/ https://www.stavros.io/posts/emergency-food-button/
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- dmritard96 10y agoOur Puck (https://flair.co/products/puck https://flair.co/products/puck) is sorta like this but with a small display. Instead of a generic button its a bit like a generic knob. So far positioned more as a heating and cooling device but I know I am excited to open it up to developers.
- notatoad 10y agoAt 3x the price (or 12x the price of a hacked button), it's not really in the same market as the dash button though
- dmritard96 10y agoagreed :)
- reitanqild 10y agoNo, it sounds way better: Puck Specifications Communication ============= Bluetooth Beacon for occupant awareness Wifi (Puck can act as its own gateway, no hub needed) 915MHz Radio for device to device communication Infrared (IR) record/playback Sensors ======= Temperature Humidity Pressure Ambient Light Interaction =========== Rotation and Click <---- Rotation is not on Amazons E-ink Display <---- added
- mikeash 10y agoYou'll hit breakeven on the price at 2,001 presses and from that point on it'll be cheaper.
- reitanqild 10y agoThat was one really nifty device. Your site mentions device to device comms. Is this user programmable? Also display only shows temp. Are there other options?
- dmritard96 10y agoYou will be able to reflash all three radios on the device (although you will need to keep the wifi's bootloader for the foreseeable future). Otherwise use should be able to swap out the bluetooth image and the subgigahertz stack. The UI is reprogrammable without touching code also with 'microapps'. You could think of them as super lightweight shortcuts for adjusting things. You can see some examples on our twitter feed: https://twitter.com/flair_co https://twitter.com/flair_co
- hendler 10y ago"Yo"[1] hardware. [1] - https://www.justyo.co/ https://www.justyo.co/
- somethingsimple 10y agoI really hope they haven't patented this. It doesn't seem hard to compete against it or build your own - an ESP8266 module costs about $6 and makes it super easy to hack your own "IoT button".
- Bogdan91 10y agoESP8266 is around 2$ (even cheaper if you buy only the chip) and an nodemcu/wemos devkit around 4$.
- philip1209 10y agoI would love a Zapier integration here
- mryan 10y agoApparently the button supports SNS, which can be integrated with Zapier.
- mitul_45 10y agoSomething similar: https://bt.tn/ https://bt.tn/
- i2shar 10y agoFWIW, if you don't need hardware, you can turn your phone into such a "button". Apps allow you to add a widget to your home screen and can be configured to make HTTP requests. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.rmy.android.http_shortcuts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.rmy.android...
- suchitpuri 10y agowe can now have one "click" deploy's.
- jimbobfarjones 10y agoThat was my first thought as well! How much more satisfying than clicking a link in a UI.
- NicoJuicy 10y agoBetter Alternatives ( from comments and searching on google): Amazon Dash button 5 $ - for shopping on amazon, hacks found for ifttt integration ( integrated with buying on amazon) : http://www.amazon.com/b?node=10667898011 http://www.amazon.com/b?node=10667898011 https://www.particle.io/button https://www.particle.io/button 20 $ , integrated with ifttt Product: ESP8266 => DIY 7$ IFTTT ( https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-button-888a87 https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-butt... , https://hackaday.io/project/5673-esp8266-dash-button https://hackaday.io/project/5673-esp8266-dash-button , http://www.instructables.com/id/Emergency-Button/ http://www.instructables.com/id/Emergency-Button/ , https://github.com/sam1am/IFTTTButton https://github.com/sam1am/IFTTTButton)
- singularity2001 10y agoalso for 20$ You can buy a basic android phone with infinitely many more buttons & use cases
- akman 10y ago>https://www.particle.io/button https://www.particle.io/button 20 $ Since this was mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this is actually $49. With a little work, the $19 Photon could certainly do the same.
- nxzero 10y agoAt $20, who would by this? Has anyone seen a DYI that's cheap?
- ewindisch 10y agoI bought a couple as the main value for me is that it's tied directly to AWS Lambda. Yes, I could build an ESP8266, RaspberryPi, or Arduino-based solution, but then it's totally custom. Because my startup is involved in "serverless" computing, it's beneficial for me to say that this button directly calls an AWS Lambda function out of the box. I'll replace the battery with a DC transformer and use one for demos.
- nxzero 10y agoNot following why exactly you've decided that being "serverless" or using Lambda makes this worth it. What exactly is IO Pipe (your startup) and what would a demo using Amazon's button do?
- ewindisch 10y agoWe're building open source tools and services for developers to build and manage the lifecycle of serverless applications. The AWS IoT Button works as an event-loop for a (simple) serverless workflow. We can use it to demonstrate and validate one of our use-cases and to provide demonstration of our tools (push the buttons and see what happens). The concept of running our code directly from IoT devices is something we've found pretty compelling but until now it was very much a DIY affair. It's exciting to see Amazon release hardware that does this out of the box, directly running our code, as basic as it might be.
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- ruiramos 10y agoWhy US only?!
- stonewhite 10y agoYup, I was looking for a way to realize this: http://make-everything-ok.com/ http://make-everything-ok.com/
- joshstrange 10y agoA lot of complaining about the $0.02/press (no recharge/replace on battery) but all the other buttons I've seen cost significantly more and this feels a little more plug&play. I'll probably wait for it to get cheaper or get a replaceable battery as I don't have a great use case for it at this time but it's at the top of my list if I need something like this.
- polskibus 10y agoI'd say Texas Instruments' Sensortag gives you much more flexibility. It has lots of sensors and 2 buttons.
- radarsat1 10y agowwwwhaa.... what IS this? > For example, you can click the button to unlock or start a car, open your garage door, call a cab, call your spouse or a customer service representative I'm so confused. So now, to open the garage door, I buy an internet device, and when i click it, it sends a message to a server, charges me 0.02$, runs some kind of "cloud" script that executes some kind of "rules", registers something in a database, and sends a message back to my garage door opener? The future is weird.
- mnglkhn2 10y agoMaybe the future they envision for you is to be able to open your garage door while you are not in its proximity. Or to let your car open the garage door on its own, after you summon it. Who knows, soon enough, the cars will have a life of their own, going on nightly strolls and self mechanic check-ups. :)
- throwaway7767 10y agoThere's no need to involve remote servers for your self-driving car to open your garage door. It can do it the same way you currently do, with an RF signal. I'm sure we can concoct some contrived examples where one needs to open a garage door without being present, but I really think this is more about the big tech companies trying to get vendor lock-in.
- cfpg 10y agoThe future is trackable by them.
- danvoell 10y agoIt does seem a little odd. Why not a button on your phone. Or your Alexa. Or why have a button at all. The only possible reason why they are promoting this is to get people to understand the code and architecture and program it into other things or for hobbyist projects.
- mavhc 10y agoI use https://www.facebook.com/clickotrigger/ https://www.facebook.com/clickotrigger/ which is bluetooth, has internet connectivity as an option. Sadly the company appears to be dead now. Was cheaper than buying a replacement garage door key fob
- kstenerud 10y agoJust the number of points of failure in this pipeline relegates this to toy status at best. WIFI interruption? Button doesn't work. Internet connection down? Button doesn't work. Bad network congestion? Button doesn't work. Amazon suffering DDOS? Button doesn't work. Battery dies? Button doesn't work. Too many presses? Button doesn't work. Misconfigured server? Button doesn't work. Certificate expiry? Button doesn't work. "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - Montgomery Scott
- moondev 10y agoWhat were you planning on doing with this? Launch a shuttle?
- geoffreyy 10y agoI wrote a blog post [1] several months ago on how to use these buttons to call Uber. Happy hacking! [1] https://medium.com/@geoffrey___/summon-uber-with-the-new-amazon-dash-button-876b54385dec#.r01e7f9zt https://medium.com/@geoffrey___/summon-uber-with-the-new-ama...
- seangrogg 10y agoIt's a $19 button that lasts ~1000 presses and can be used to trigger events on Lambda (which are free for the first million, so no real issue). So what you're getting is a cost of $0.019 per press. Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press. Decisions, decisions...
- brokentone 10y agoWill you be permanently mounting your phone where you want to trigger these events?
- fuzzygroove 10y agoSome progress has been made at reverse-engineering the hardware, which is very similar to that found in the Particle Photon. At $20, the Photon is a clear winner over the IoT button. As soon as someone puts the pieces together so we can flash the Dash's firmware, that's when things get interesting. https://community.particle.io/t/amazon-dash-anyone-hacked-it/14303/35 https://community.particle.io/t/amazon-dash-anyone-hacked-it...