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Is this important? As far as i seen the ceiling is about same everywhere on Upwork, about $40 an hour for long-term full-time work and $70-$90 for short-term gi

Is this important? As far as i seen the ceiling is about same everywhere on Upwork, about $40 an hour for long-term full-time work and $70-$90 for short-term gigs. For someone who programmed since the age of 10 learning a new programming language is easy. I started on oDesk as a Flash developer (it was 2009 - heyday of Flash), then gradually moved onto other stuff, my most recent new language was Go (i did PubNub Go SDK). Right now i am coding in Python but i can easily be doing something else next month. But really, i don't think skills are an answer here. At least not technical skills. There is no way i could be making $200K instead of $100K by learning any kind of technical/programming skills. What i need is new markets.

CyberFonic 11y ago
Some enterprise Java devs, big data experts and algo trading specialists earn $200k+ in the top cities. Not sure what you mean by "new markets". Do you mean new markets for your programming skills? Or are you thinking of changing careers, for example going into sales or big ticket consulting?
- anovikov 11y ago
  Top cities - in the EU? Like, which ones? Currently i am in Vilnius which has quite a low cost of living. I don't think i want to go to say Paris for $200K pre-tax. I will be clearly worse off there. Also once i get passport (i am a Russian immigrant), i plan to move to Asia where cost of living is lower yet - unless by that time i get enough to stop worrying about money. New markets - some new way of selling my programming services which don't share the 'race to the bottom' style of Upwork bidding. I kind of assume that if i am one of the just a few top people on Upwork there must be a way to get several times as much if i am on a market where average skills are comparable to mine.
- anovikov 11y ago
  Big ticket consulting-maybe! Where do i start? Any links to read?

CyberFonic 11y ago

Some enterprise Java devs, big data experts and algo trading specialists earn $200k+ in the top cities. Not sure what you mean by "new markets". Do you mean new markets for your programming skills? Or are you thinking of changing careers, for example going into sales or big ticket consulting?

anovikov 11y ago
Top cities - in the EU? Like, which ones? Currently i am in Vilnius which has quite a low cost of living. I don't think i want to go to say Paris for $200K pre-tax. I will be clearly worse off there. Also once i get passport (i am a Russian immigrant), i plan to move to Asia where cost of living is lower yet - unless by that time i get enough to stop worrying about money. New markets - some new way of selling my programming services which don't share the 'race to the bottom' style of Upwork bidding. I kind of assume that if i am one of the just a few top people on Upwork there must be a way to get several times as much if i am on a market where average skills are comparable to mine.
anovikov 11y ago
Big ticket consulting-maybe! Where do i start? Any links to read?