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Like or dislike, you would be the first to die in 99% of societies, human or otherwise. This may get downvoted but don't shoot the messenger. You can't "hate"

Like or dislike, you would be the first to die in 99% of societies, human or otherwise. This may get downvoted but don't shoot the messenger. You can't "hate" something that just "is".

TeMPOraL 10y ago
> You can't "hate" something that just "is". You can, and you should. Civilization itself is based on the idea that what "just is" can be utterly fucked up and should be fixed.
pasquinelli 10y ago
seems the fact he's alive puts that into question.
barrkel 10y ago
You're way off base. It's people who challenge the current leaders that get beaten back the hardest. That is, it's people in second place who suffer, because they're a threat; people way back in the mass are invisible.
jokoon 10y ago
So does that mean I'm part of the 1%? Because I'm an unemployed man on welfare.
- sremani 10y ago
  His point was there should be a threshold level of competitiveness to survive in the world, and you based on your posts probably fall below that (made-up) threshold. I agree partially here. People who show greatest reluctance also sometimes compete crazy for the right kind of reward or circumstance. Humans or for that part, animals that are social, have a very interesting compete-cooperate dynamic. The compete part also is how we choose our leaders, in cooperate team/group.
- Camillo 10y ago
  Which is why you dislike competition.
  - jokoon 10y ago
    But do I dislike competition because of my social status, or is that the other way around? Which caused which? Is that really sufficient to sum up my opinion through my subjective point of view ? Look at the politics of dealing with losers in our society, it's not pretty. I think that at some point, if there is more competition than cooperation, a lot of people will get alienated, and that won't always be a good thing. I mean trade in general feels more like competition than cooperation. I agree that competition yields benefits thanks since the economy manages itself, but it also has huge costs. I mean I don't like society for its competition, I like it for its cooperation. If I'd really like competition, I'd live as a hermit. And to be honest, if society become less and less cooperative as a whole, what's the point of it ?
YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
Some people may downvote you for asking not to be downvoted, mind.
braythwayt 10y ago
Smallpox just was. We fucking conquered it. Malaria just is. And luckily, some people will not settle.

Like or dislike, you would be the first to die in 99% of societies, human or otherwise. This may get downvoted but don't shoot the messenger. You can't "hate" something that just "is".

TeMPOraL 10y ago

> You can't "hate" something that just "is". You can, and you should. Civilization itself is based on the idea that what "just is" can be utterly fucked up and should be fixed.

pasquinelli 10y ago

seems the fact he's alive puts that into question.

barrkel 10y ago

You're way off base. It's people who challenge the current leaders that get beaten back the hardest. That is, it's people in second place who suffer, because they're a threat; people way back in the mass are invisible.

jokoon 10y ago

So does that mean I'm part of the 1%? Because I'm an unemployed man on welfare.

sremani 10y ago
His point was there should be a threshold level of competitiveness to survive in the world, and you based on your posts probably fall below that (made-up) threshold. I agree partially here. People who show greatest reluctance also sometimes compete crazy for the right kind of reward or circumstance. Humans or for that part, animals that are social, have a very interesting compete-cooperate dynamic. The compete part also is how we choose our leaders, in cooperate team/group.
Camillo 10y ago
Which is why you dislike competition.
- jokoon 10y ago
  But do I dislike competition because of my social status, or is that the other way around? Which caused which? Is that really sufficient to sum up my opinion through my subjective point of view ? Look at the politics of dealing with losers in our society, it's not pretty. I think that at some point, if there is more competition than cooperation, a lot of people will get alienated, and that won't always be a good thing. I mean trade in general feels more like competition than cooperation. I agree that competition yields benefits thanks since the economy manages itself, but it also has huge costs. I mean I don't like society for its competition, I like it for its cooperation. If I'd really like competition, I'd live as a hermit. And to be honest, if society become less and less cooperative as a whole, what's the point of it ?

YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago

Some people may downvote you for asking not to be downvoted, mind.

braythwayt 10y ago

Smallpox just was. We fucking conquered it. Malaria just is. And luckily, some people will not settle.