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God forbid there is a bug in software! This article is crap, maybe he ran into an issue but I've helped over a dozen people get setup on Apple Music and not onc

God forbid there is a bug in software! This article is crap, maybe he ran into an issue but I've helped over a dozen people get setup on Apple Music and not once has there been file deletion. I am very skeptical that theoretical phone rep said any of these things either. Obviously there is a bug that needs fixing, but this is definitely not a platform wide attempt to delete anyone's data.

bogomipz 10y ago
Really? Just because you have helped over a dozen people it means that this issue doesn't exist? Did you bother to check every local file on the person's drive that you were helping? If you didn't know about the potential issue how would you know to check. The author isn't saying its intentional hs's saying this is a side-effect of this model. Incidentally this is not the first type questionable practice from Apple Music. See this: http://9to5mac.com/2015/07/02/apple-music-vs-itunes-match-drm/ http://9to5mac.com/2015/07/02/apple-music-vs-itunes-match-dr...
- simonster 10y ago
  The article you linked to appears to describe something totally different. It says that if you delete your music from your computer, then re-downloading the music through Apple Music will give you DRMed files. But it also says: > If you haven’t deleted your own copies of your music, then there’s nothing to worry about. If you download onto other devices from Apple Music, those devices will get the DRM versions, but you’ll still have your DRM-free originals.
  - mistermann 10y ago
    When he says copies, I think he was referring to his backup?
    - simonster 10y ago
      The preceding sentence is: > Either way, if you’ve used iTunes Match as a convenient way to free up space on your Mac by deleting your own copy of any of your music, don’t cancel your subscription in favor of Apple Music if you want to keep that music DRM free. Given the reference to freeing up space, it seems like he is talking about the original music files within iTunes and not a backup.
    - dTal 10y ago
      The author is a "she".
TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
A few years ago, after a couple of weeks of ripping my CD collection to FLAC, I decided to import it into iTunes. What happened next was an epic fail exactly like the article describes - iTunes trashed my collection, "organised" the files in it in ways that were buggy and just plain wrong, and turned two weeks of part time effort into completely wasted time. This was before iCloud, and fortunately I keep my own music on a separate disk, so it didn't try to trash that too. In a sense I was lucky. Two wasted weeks is a learning experience. Two years would have been heartbreaking. Two decades? I. Can't. Even. Since then I haven't allowed iTunes anywhere near my FLAC collection. I've also warned anyone with a music collection to never, ever to allow iTunes anywhere near it.
- preetbhinder 10y ago
  I stopped using anything from the i* suite after my first Mac when I learned that it messed up my folder structure. All my carefully organised music and photos were imported into an opaque database that gave me no visibility into how things were stored.
  - wlesieutre 10y ago
    This part at least has been a configurable option as long as I can remember. http://www.usbdacs.com/Macintosh/files/page5_5.jpg http://www.usbdacs.com/Macintosh/files/page5_5.jpg
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    Did something change? Because the iTunes internal organization for music at least is quite easy to understand. From the library folder: Music/Artist/Album/Track# Title.ext If your files aren't tagged correctly (which is distressingly common), then the auto organization will make a pig's breakfast of your library. A common example: "Artist" and "Album Artist" are two different ID3 fields - if you have an album with an Album Artist but a blank Artist, iTunes will catalog it as "Unknown Artist" when the consolidation happens. This is slightly annoying to fix, but the mass tag editor in iTunes works well.
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rootlocus 10y ago
Your overconfidence makes you look like an arrogant, ignorant fanboy with no empathy. Maybe the next "obvious bug" will erase all your family photos.

bogomipz 10y ago

Really? Just because you have helped over a dozen people it means that this issue doesn't exist? Did you bother to check every local file on the person's drive that you were helping? If you didn't know about the potential issue how would you know to check. The author isn't saying its intentional hs's saying this is a side-effect of this model. Incidentally this is not the first type questionable practice from Apple Music. See this: http://9to5mac.com/2015/07/02/apple-music-vs-itunes-match-drm/ http://9to5mac.com/2015/07/02/apple-music-vs-itunes-match-dr...

simonster 10y ago
The article you linked to appears to describe something totally different. It says that if you delete your music from your computer, then re-downloading the music through Apple Music will give you DRMed files. But it also says: > If you haven’t deleted your own copies of your music, then there’s nothing to worry about. If you download onto other devices from Apple Music, those devices will get the DRM versions, but you’ll still have your DRM-free originals.
- mistermann 10y ago
  When he says copies, I think he was referring to his backup?
  - simonster 10y ago
    The preceding sentence is: > Either way, if you’ve used iTunes Match as a convenient way to free up space on your Mac by deleting your own copy of any of your music, don’t cancel your subscription in favor of Apple Music if you want to keep that music DRM free. Given the reference to freeing up space, it seems like he is talking about the original music files within iTunes and not a backup.
  - dTal 10y ago
    The author is a "she".

TheOtherHobbes 10y ago

A few years ago, after a couple of weeks of ripping my CD collection to FLAC, I decided to import it into iTunes. What happened next was an epic fail exactly like the article describes - iTunes trashed my collection, "organised" the files in it in ways that were buggy and just plain wrong, and turned two weeks of part time effort into completely wasted time. This was before iCloud, and fortunately I keep my own music on a separate disk, so it didn't try to trash that too. In a sense I was lucky. Two wasted weeks is a learning experience. Two years would have been heartbreaking. Two decades? I. Can't. Even. Since then I haven't allowed iTunes anywhere near my FLAC collection. I've also warned anyone with a music collection to never, ever to allow iTunes anywhere near it.

preetbhinder 10y ago
I stopped using anything from the i* suite after my first Mac when I learned that it messed up my folder structure. All my carefully organised music and photos were imported into an opaque database that gave me no visibility into how things were stored.
- wlesieutre 10y ago
  This part at least has been a configurable option as long as I can remember. http://www.usbdacs.com/Macintosh/files/page5_5.jpg http://www.usbdacs.com/Macintosh/files/page5_5.jpg
- Karunamon 10y ago
  Did something change? Because the iTunes internal organization for music at least is quite easy to understand. From the library folder: Music/Artist/Album/Track# Title.ext If your files aren't tagged correctly (which is distressingly common), then the auto organization will make a pig's breakfast of your library. A common example: "Artist" and "Album Artist" are two different ID3 fields - if you have an album with an Album Artist but a blank Artist, iTunes will catalog it as "Unknown Artist" when the consolidation happens. This is slightly annoying to fix, but the mass tag editor in iTunes works well.
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rootlocus 10y ago

Your overconfidence makes you look like an arrogant, ignorant fanboy with no empathy. Maybe the next "obvious bug" will erase all your family photos.