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I'm fairly certain Brazil didn't just wake up one day and decide to reactivate WhatsApp's service... So my first reaction to this news is what did Facebook/Wha

by smaili 10y ago

I'm fairly certain Brazil didn't just wake up one day and decide to reactivate WhatsApp's service... So my first reaction to this news is what did Facebook/WhatsApp/Zuckerberg do, or possibly even give up, in order to change Brazil's mind.

x0054 10y ago
Nothing, their judicial system functioned as it should, only a day too slow. A district judge in the middle of the country has no right to do stuff like that, and the appellate judge fixed the overstep. Now, step 2, disbar the original district judge.
- outworlder 10y ago
  Step 2 seldom happens. Judges have an extreme amount of power.
  - matt_wulfeck 10y ago
    Actually judges generally have very little power. For example, they can't enforce any decision they make, they can only make decisions. In a functioning democracy the branches are balanced. In this case it looks like it took too long.
    - neves 10y ago
      In Brazil a lower judge just illegally wired trap the president talking to an ex-president and released it to the media. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/release-tapped-phone-calls-lula-rousseff-deepens-brazil-chaos http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/release-tapped-...
readams 10y ago
There is only one specific judge that has ordered the block both times it has occurred. Both times it has been overturned when appealed to other judges in Brazil. It's not "Brazil" that made this decision. It's one extremist judge.
- schoen 10y ago
  The December 2015 block was ordered by a judge in São Paulo (edit: São Bernardo do Campo city, in São Paulo state), while the most recent block was ordered by a judge in Sergipe. What you might be thinking of was the February arrest of a Facebook executive, which was ordered by the same judge in Sergipe as the current WhatsApp block.
  - singlow 10y ago
    I think he or she just meant that in each case it was a single Judge's decision - that in neither case was the decision reviewed by a second court or committee before taking effect.
- luizlopes 10y ago
  I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different, and that is how you get the extremist judge.
  - schoen 10y ago
    Recall that a similar order was issued by a judge in São Bernardo do Campo just five months ago (causing Brazilian ISPs to block access to WhatsApp servers).
  - cadddr 10y ago
    If you are Brazilian (as your username suggests), you should be ashamed for making this comment.
    - scriptalipta 10y ago
      I am not Brazilian, but currently in Brazil. I also heard comments along those lines. Nothing to be ashamed of when making a statement like that. It's worse when you let nationalistic pride stop you from making negative comments.
      - 10y ago

by smaili 10y ago

x0054 10y ago

Nothing, their judicial system functioned as it should, only a day too slow. A district judge in the middle of the country has no right to do stuff like that, and the appellate judge fixed the overstep. Now, step 2, disbar the original district judge.

outworlder 10y ago
Step 2 seldom happens. Judges have an extreme amount of power.
- matt_wulfeck 10y ago
  Actually judges generally have very little power. For example, they can't enforce any decision they make, they can only make decisions. In a functioning democracy the branches are balanced. In this case it looks like it took too long.
  - neves 10y ago
    In Brazil a lower judge just illegally wired trap the president talking to an ex-president and released it to the media. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/release-tapped-phone-calls-lula-rousseff-deepens-brazil-chaos http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/release-tapped-...

readams 10y ago

There is only one specific judge that has ordered the block both times it has occurred. Both times it has been overturned when appealed to other judges in Brazil. It's not "Brazil" that made this decision. It's one extremist judge.

schoen 10y ago
The December 2015 block was ordered by a judge in São Paulo (edit: São Bernardo do Campo city, in São Paulo state), while the most recent block was ordered by a judge in Sergipe. What you might be thinking of was the February arrest of a Facebook executive, which was ordered by the same judge in Sergipe as the current WhatsApp block.
- singlow 10y ago
  I think he or she just meant that in each case it was a single Judge's decision - that in neither case was the decision reviewed by a second court or committee before taking effect.
luizlopes 10y ago
I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different, and that is how you get the extremist judge.
- schoen 10y ago
  Recall that a similar order was issued by a judge in São Bernardo do Campo just five months ago (causing Brazilian ISPs to block access to WhatsApp servers).
- cadddr 10y ago
  If you are Brazilian (as your username suggests), you should be ashamed for making this comment.
  - scriptalipta 10y ago
    I am not Brazilian, but currently in Brazil. I also heard comments along those lines. Nothing to be ashamed of when making a statement like that. It's worse when you let nationalistic pride stop you from making negative comments.
    - 10y ago