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Trump is probably our only chance at stopping this from becoming a reality.
by tazjin 11y ago
Trump is probably our only chance at stopping this from becoming a reality.
- PythonicAlpha 11y agoBefore Obama was elected, they said the same thing about him and spying on US citizen. Edit: Seems, I said something right here -- hence the many downvotes! For those not knowing: Obama was much criticizing the spying when he still was Senator.
- dexterdog 11y agoBut that was OK because he had the most transparent administration ever as promised.
- PythonicAlpha 11y agoSo, it is OK, to violate the rights of the people in a "transparent" way? Or are you just want to say, that it is an improvement that he at least kept one of his promises?
- the_mitsuhiko 11y agoNice that only ever US citizens are considered.
- PythonicAlpha 11y agoAs non-US citizen, I consider also non-US citizen ;) But Obamas voters where US citizen, of course. (and I choose to take the most obvious problem for my statement)
- Chris2048 11y agoAnd shutting down GB. Which goes to say it doesn't matter if they seem "nice" or not, they can still let you down - the important thing is how tied to the establishment they are.
- tommyman 11y agoI honestly cannot tell if that is serious, a joke or some kind of irony. I'm not american so really not my business however narcissists do not make good social leaders. They make really terrible & dangerous social leaders.
- nibs 11y agoAll politicians are narcissists. Trump is just more extroverted.
- crdoconnor 11y agoTrump has spoken out against the TTIP and TPP on a number of occasions. The media just doesn't like to talk about that aspect of his campaign: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/27/trade-policy-uk-eu-referendum-us-bernie-sanders-donald-trump-ttip-globalisation http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/27/trade-policy...
- tommyman 11y agoI'm not sure how much weight that has. Forget what people say to/in public settings and look at their current & previous actions. If Trump were not in presidential race and putting on public face, how do you think he would treat TTiP based on his lifetime actions? I think he would support & exploit it every way he could, & i think thats what he will do in reality regardless of what he states publicly but that's just me. Never trust what politicians say if all their actions run contrary.
- crdoconnor 11y agoHe puts a large enough emphasis on it and garners enough support from it. I doubt he's going to do a 180 if elected. It's not quite like George Bush's offhand "we will not do nation building" or Obama's offhand "this will be the most transparent administration ever". The unfairness of US trade deals is fairly central to his campaign and his support base of working class whites in hollowed out ex-industrial America. Then again, can't rule it out either.
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- shimon_e 11y agoFrom Trump's mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8KXUThYjhs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8KXUThYjhs "TPP is going to be worse... we can't let it happen... if I am president first day - boom - it's over... you know what it is 5,000 pages... that none of our people even read..."
- burkaman 11y agoIsn't every current presidential candidate against TPP and TTIP? Except maybe Kasich, I guess.
- tazjin 11y agoTrump and Clinton are the only remaining candidates, and Clinton is flip-flopping on the issue depending on who she's talking to. She only recently did an anti-TPP U-turn - who knows what she stands for after being elected. Fortunately for us she won't be elected though!
- mod 11y agoIf you believe that, you should probably bet against her. The oddmakers have her as a pretty significant favorite right now.
- tazjin 11y agoAh yes, do you remember when Jeb! Bush was going to be the Republican nominee? Everyone was very certain about it.
- BookmarkSaver 11y agoYeah, before a single vote was cast. The votes are almost entirely in right now, and Sanders would need a miracle.
- dragonwriter 11y ago> The votes are almost entirely in right now, and Sanders would need a miracle. Its pretty unlikely that either candidate will have a sufficient number of pledged delegates. Hillary seems far ahead because of early statements of support from superdelegates, made at a time when her support numbers (both overall and within the party) were much higher, and here unfavorable ratings with the general election electorate much lower, when no one could imagine any other Democratic candidate garnering anywhere close to as much support through the primary and caucus process, and before she was roundly out fundraised by Sanders. Now, while the media coverage of delegate counts has largely treated these superdelegate statements of support as equivalent to pledged delegates awarded through the primary and caucus process, they are not.