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1. I did forward the note to Loren, but I didn't think Loren would use it this way. 2. Loren shouldn't have and that was not cool. 3. Daniel has problems and
by jasonmcalacanis 17y ago
1. I did forward the note to Loren, but I didn't think Loren would use it this way.
2. Loren shouldn't have and that was not cool.
3. Daniel has problems and needs to get help. I feel bad for him because doing something so extreme at a young age so publicly is, well, not good.
4. Good on the company who turned Daniel in and who confessed--that's brave. It was also really stupid and desperate to even consider, let alone promise, giving a laptop in return for a blog post. Honestly, if you're company doesn't get attention don't get desperate... just keep trying!
5. Bad on me for sending this to Loren. I honestly didn't even read the whole thing... I was like "oh here is an email from the dude who got extorted cool... " I actually didn't think it was that big of deal.
6. If you can do a story about Open Angel Forum on Thursday and get it to the top slot on HN I will gladly give you an Apple Tablet.
Anyway, I've got more important things to attend to at 1AM than Daniel extortion plot fall out.
peace and love,
jcal
- romland 17y agoIf you wanted to sway me into disagreeing with parent's post, then you pretty much failed. Your post came across as pretty insincere. Sorry to say. And this: If you can do a story about Open Angel Forum on Thursday and get it to the top slot on HN I will gladly give you an Apple Tablet. Always an agenda, eh. Even if the event is news-worthy (and organization good), together with the rest of your post it certainly made me sneer.
- jasonmcalacanis 17y agoget a sense of humor.... really. this isn't that big of deal. also, i get noting out of doing Open Angel Forum other than pleasure (and maybe the ability to cherry pick a couple of amazing investments from time to time if the startups will have me!). it's a pure labor of love.... ... don't hate.
- cj 17y agoObviously it's a more of a "big deal" to a lot of people on this site, considering it got 200 votes overnight. Pretending it's not a big deal makes you sound ignorant. If and when mahalo fails, and you end up having to sell your tesla, no ones going to be around to support you.
- lucifer 17y ago"I have thrown my life into Divvyshot for the last year. I've personally invested close to $100,000 into the company. I would probably give anything I have to see it succeed. Other than a happy and fulfilling relationship with my girlfriend, there's nothing I want more." Sounds like a big deal to me. Not good when good men like Sam have to deal with men of dubious morals and ethics and for the kicker we get to hear that the issue is that our sense [of] humor is lacking. Peace and love.
- jwr 17y agoWhy do people downmod Jason's post? Disagreeing is not a reason for downmodding. I was interested in his response, whatever it might be. I want to judge for myself.
- ohashi 17y agoI think people judged with their votes.
- demallien 17y agoBecause the post is positively oozing insincerity, and most of us here value honesty?
- swombat 17y agoIrrelevant. That's not what voting is for. I've upvoted every one of Jason's posts, not because I agree with them, but because downvoting is for something else.
- whyleyc 17y agoWhat do you consider grounds for a down-vote then ? (this is sincere question)
- swombat 17y agoTwo possibilities: 1) In the case of obvious trolling or idiocy, e.g. "lol your mom sucks" or "ur dumb", downvoting below zero is warranted because those comments are stuff that we don't want to see at all. 2) In the case of everything else, downvoting is warranted, imho, only when something has been upvoted beyond where it should be. For example, if Jason's posts were at 50 upvotes, I would downvote them, because that's totally unwarranted. In this case, I'd downvote them even at 10 points... they're relevant because of who he is and how he's connected to this, but not that insightful. Basically, for all non-troll posts, you should upvote/downvote based on whether you feel the post has the points it deserves, and generally never downvote below zero. In this case, Jason, although controversial, is not an obvious stupid troll - he's responding to points that people are making. I would like to see his posts somewhere between 1 and 5 points, rather than at -4.
- andrewtj 17y agoBad on me for sending this to Loren. I honestly didn't even read the whole thing... I was like "oh here is an email from the dude who got extorted cool... " I actually didn't think it was that big of deal. Never email something you're not comfortable with sharing with the world. Aside from the security concerns, your email is not going to be read in a clean room and you never know what distraction, mood or state's caught the recipient.
- jasonmcalacanis 17y agouhhhh..... correct! it would have been kept confidential if it said confidential in the subject line or first line. i get 400-500 emails a day... i scan most.
- jsz0 17y agoIf he was so concerned about keeping it private why did he e-mail you in the first place? Did the e-mail specifically ask you not to share? If not it's a valuable lesson in how the exchange of information works in the real world. Talk to your good friends about private issues in a private setting. Don't start sending e-mails to strangers(?) and expect them to understand the implied privacy concerns without an explicit privacy request attached.
- boundlessdreamz 17y agoIf you read, jason's comments in the original post, he has said that the email asked to be kept confidential. Jason said he didn't read the whole thing and forwarded it for fun and berated sam for not mentioning confidentiality in the subject !! Stay away from calcanis.
- jsz0 17y agoAh well that's just sloppy or shady. No excuse for that.
- lurkerperpetual 17y agoRe: 3. ... 'so publicly '.. You make it sound the problem is the publicity rather the act itself :) Actually it may be better in the long run for him it happened so publicly, or he may have reached new lows later on encouraged by early success. Being caught can be a blessing in disguise.
- jasonmcalacanis 17y agogood point
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- jfarmer 17y agoPeace and love? http://twitter.com/Jason/status/9866153749 http://twitter.com/Jason/status/9866153749 http://twitter.com/Jason/status/9866120496 http://twitter.com/Jason/status/9866120496 Bullshit. I also think it's amusing that you call Sam a loser for dithering when asked to give a bribe, but here you are trying to bribe your way onto Hacker News.
- jasonmcalacanis 17y agoit's a loser move to even considering bribing your way into coverage. that being said, he is a hero for coming out about his mistake! peace and love... peace and love... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAU0l7325w0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAU0l7325w0
- jfarmer 17y agoI have a hard time reconciling your desire to be "the most sought-after, and value-added, angel investor in the world" and the huge shit you just took on Sam's head -- in public, no less. This AFTER you forwarded a confidential email to a third-party who used it to threaten Sam.
- pchristensen 17y agobut here you are trying to bribe your way onto Hacker News. Satire dude. Satire.
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