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The only genuinely hard part is the fissile material. It would be trivial for a country like Japan to do this in days/weeks (going from materials they have to
by rdl 11y ago
The only genuinely hard part is the fissile material. It would be trivial for a country like Japan to do this in days/weeks (going from materials they have to weapons); a country like, say, Sweden with less of a nuclear industry could also become a nuclear state fairly quickly. Plenty of companies or individuals could do it.
The difference is -- if the US/Russia/etc. detect that someone is trying to make a nuclear weapon, all means up to an including a preemptive strike (nuclear or conventional) is on the table. Diplomatic pressure is the first step, but unless you're in a position to essentially blackmail/stalemate everyone, it would not run to completion. If, say, Nigeria were taken over by a crazed regime which wanted to make a nuclear weapon, and it didn't have either the US or Russia protecting it (or possibly China), all national means would be expended to prevent this from happening.
(Stuxnet was a horrible Pandora's box opening, but IMO the US/Israelis behind it probably saved the world from a nuclear conflict, which is win/win for basically everyone. If it were a private individual or group, it would be even easier to go after them.)
Theoretically, it may be possible to do "fission free fusion"; if someone can develop a reasonable, cheap, undetectable procedure for that, we are utterly fucked.
The other thing which terrifies me would be laser separation/enrichment. Basically anything which could be done surreptitiously or in a widely dispersed way, vs. at a small number of detectable, centralized plants.
(My money is on bioweapons destroying civilization, if not humanity, within 50 years, though, before nuclear weapons have a chance. Bioweapons are far easier to develop surreptitiously, and with very small scale initial capital requirements.)
- adventured 11y ago> all means up to an including a preemptive strike (nuclear or conventional) is on the table >all national means would be expended to prevent this from happening What you're saying is overly dramatic to say the least. If any of that were actually true, the US would have nuked or invaded North Korea in the mid 1990s. It was extremely well understood they were developing a nuclear weapon. We knew it for two decades. The same is true for Pakistan, we knew they had a program, why didn't the US invade / nuke / attack / subdue them in response (even afterward)? The US hardly did anything of consequence to Pakistan in response, they got a slap on the wrist and the runway to develop a hundred nuclear warheads.
- rdl 11y agoNK has leverage a random group wouldn't (alliance with China, and more importantly, a huge, dug-in conventional force which can obliterate Seoul in hours no matter what the US does, even a pre-emptive nuclear strike). Iran does, too. A hypothetical rando country probably doesn't. A company or terrorist group unallied with a major state certainly doesn't.
- wtbob 11y ago> My money is on bioweapons destroying civilization, if not humanity, within 50 years Oh, humanity — i.e. the Platonic quality of being humane — will survive, but mankind may not.