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This [1] is apparently the data released. I am no physicist but that page doesn't exactly inspire awe among the curious minded. They do explain how a couple of

by Achshar 10y ago

This [1] is apparently the data released. I am no physicist but that page doesn't exactly inspire awe among the curious minded. They do explain how a couple of undergrads were able to use the data to create something meaningful in the original release article but that specific site can definitely use a UX designer, or two. http://opendata.cern.ch/search?ln=en&p=Run2011A+AND+collection%3ACMS-Primary-Datasets+OR+collection%3ACMS-Simulated-Datasets+OR+collection%3ACMS-Derived-Datasets http://opendata.cern.ch/search?ln=en&p=Run2011A+AND+collecti...

drauh 10y ago
http://home.cern/about/computing http://home.cern/about/computing "Physicists must sift through the 30 petabytes or so of data produced annually to determine if the collisions have thrown up any interesting physics. … The Data Centre processes about one petabyte of data every day - the equivalent of around 210,000 DVDs. The centre hosts 11,000 servers with 100,000 processor cores. Some 6000 changes in the database are performed every second. The Grid runs more than two million jobs per day. At peak rates, 10 gigabytes of data may be transferred from its servers every second." Yeah, I don't think it's feasible to release data that can be used to do deep physics.
- dekhn 10y ago
  The logical thing to do is replicate the dataset to the 3 major cloud providers (Amazon, Google and Microsoft) so that anybody can attach their VMs to it with local data access speeds.
tormeh 10y ago
I don't think they need to care about UX. The "conversion rate" is probably absurdly low given the need for storage, RAM and CPUs to store and process the data...
miander 10y ago
The site is clearly designed for people who work in the field, and even then it only took me a moment to find a download link for some data. It even has a workable search function. I'm not saying it couldn't be better.
noir_lord 10y ago
Indeed, I'll use the data from the other LHC with the pretty site instead.
- Achshar 10y ago
  I don't mean it has to be pretty, but that is not even pleasant to look at. I can provide all the useful data in the world but if it's accessibility of low then it's value is greatly reduced.
  - noir_lord 10y ago
    I doubt it makes that much difference in reality, the value is in the data and since this data is unique and from a single source I can't see it mattering. Not arguing the value of accessibility but in this case it's a nice to have rather than an essential.
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by Achshar 10y ago

drauh 10y ago

http://home.cern/about/computing http://home.cern/about/computing "Physicists must sift through the 30 petabytes or so of data produced annually to determine if the collisions have thrown up any interesting physics. … The Data Centre processes about one petabyte of data every day - the equivalent of around 210,000 DVDs. The centre hosts 11,000 servers with 100,000 processor cores. Some 6000 changes in the database are performed every second. The Grid runs more than two million jobs per day. At peak rates, 10 gigabytes of data may be transferred from its servers every second." Yeah, I don't think it's feasible to release data that can be used to do deep physics.

dekhn 10y ago
The logical thing to do is replicate the dataset to the 3 major cloud providers (Amazon, Google and Microsoft) so that anybody can attach their VMs to it with local data access speeds.

tormeh 10y ago

I don't think they need to care about UX. The "conversion rate" is probably absurdly low given the need for storage, RAM and CPUs to store and process the data...

miander 10y ago

The site is clearly designed for people who work in the field, and even then it only took me a moment to find a download link for some data. It even has a workable search function. I'm not saying it couldn't be better.

noir_lord 10y ago

Indeed, I'll use the data from the other LHC with the pretty site instead.

Achshar 10y ago
I don't mean it has to be pretty, but that is not even pleasant to look at. I can provide all the useful data in the world but if it's accessibility of low then it's value is greatly reduced.
- noir_lord 10y ago
  I doubt it makes that much difference in reality, the value is in the data and since this data is unique and from a single source I can't see it mattering. Not arguing the value of accessibility but in this case it's a nice to have rather than an essential.

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