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Why I don't want to do anything with my life
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- aks_tldr 10y agoThats what majority of people already do.
- llamaz 10y agoI'm sick of this Myers-Briggs pseudo-science showing up everywhere. It's unethical to sell a discredited theory of the world for monetary gain. It's like Dungeons and Dragon - people identify with their type/class, except people take MBTI more seriously than they do D&D.
- B-Con 10y agoThere do seem to be patterns in personality, and I have found MB to be very helpful in getting a high-level overview of another person's general approach to the world. Reading the descriptions and discussing it with people led to a lot of "you think that way?" sort of moments from both sides. Very informative. I've found almost no helpful science on personality categorization (Big 5 is minimally helpful), so until there is I find this a useful starting tool. As a side note: The most misunderstood aspect of MBTI is that it's purely a system for categorizing high-level approach toward action and information in life. It's not what you must do, will do, can do, can't do, etc. It's only about certain aspects of outlook on life.
- Swinx43 10y agoI completely agree, this type of snake oil entrepreneurship is really getting on my nerves. It seems that peddling pseudo science is a very lucrative business opportunity and as such there is no small amount of people willing to jump on it. Another thing that truly gets me annoyed is the listing out of all these "things" that an author has been, none of them the reader would know if they have actually been any good at it. I could list a myriad of things "I have been" and make me look like a renaissance man except half of them I have been not even average at.
- lmm 10y agoIt's not pseudo-science. It has been validated, and has good test-retest reliability by psychological standards (numbers off the top of my head but it's something like 80% immediately, and something like 65% after five years) - so it's measuring something, and that something is reasonably stable. What is true is that there's no bimodality in the distribution - each factor is a bell curve - and so talking about E/I is similar to talking about above-average IQ/below-average IQ rather than talking about the numbers. But it's not pseudo-science.
- shubhamjain 10y agoHow has it been validated? Vox did an article on how it is based on unproven theories [1]. A proper validation in my impression would be if people are misattributed their personalities, will their psychological reaction to the result be different? Frankly, I don't think anyone should be excited by any test that says something positive about you. The big test is when it says negative things. For me, seeing all the personalities description, I can vaguely relate to all of them - a perfect showcase of Barnum effect [2]. [1]: http://www.vox.com/2014/7/15/5881947/myers-briggs-personality-test-meaningless http://www.vox.com/2014/7/15/5881947/myers-briggs-personalit... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
- raverbashing 10y agoRhetorical question: is eye color scientific? Do you believe in eye colors? Saying that MB is "not scientific" is laughable. It is a measure. Probably more scientific than deriving a measure called QI from 20 random questions You can of course question if conclusions based on each MB type are scientific. The personality descriptions for the most part are just concluded from the measure (which of course have some variance between people, it's not a cookie cutter approach) and of course some people have a different measure in each axis. If the descriptions fit you you're probably in the middle, because some of them certainly don't fit me From the link you quoted: "The characteristics measured by the test have almost no predictive power on how happy you'll be in a situation, how you'll perform at your job, or how happy you'll be in your marriage." Apart from the 1st measure, I wholeheartedly agree. But that's not how it should be used "Actual data tells psychologists that these traits do not have a bimodal distribution. Tracking a group of people's interactions with others, for instance, shows that as Jung noted, there aren't really pure extroverts and introverts, but mostly people who fall somewhere in between." Correct. And people may be more introverted or extroverted in some situations. But it still measures if a certain person is more introverted than extroverted Now the warning about taking it as a clear-cut indicator of performance in a certain job or position is definitely correct
- hanyoddha 10y agoI wouldn't really call it pseudo-science. For long I really did think there was something wrong with me for not being able to choose what I wanted to do in life, since I enjoyed doing a lot of things. It would also be a major cause of depression for me. But it's only when I took the test that I figured out that there are so many out there who are facing similar day-to-day challenges like I am. There's comfort in knowing that. I'm also a part of the closed community ENFP group on Facebook and people really do have the same problem. Multiple careers, lack of clarity and focus.
- kybernetikos 10y agoThe fact that these personality profiles can help people realise both that there are others like them and that different people may have different motivations and challenges is enormously useful and a valid insight. That does not mean that the profile itself is not pseudoscience though.
- shubhamjain 10y agoI am sorry but there is no reason to believe how a particular trait which troubles almost everyone can be based on a certain personality type. There are lots of take-an-interest-in-everything people out there who can't decide what they want to do, even though being particularly good at lots of things. I am not denying why this question might trouble you, it has troubled me for a long time myself but being a so called INTJ-type, I can't say if the personality-bucketing is the reason you should nail it down to.
- fidrelity 10y agoWhat was your personal solution if I may ask?
- shubhamjain 10y agoI am pretty happy that I am a generalist. I have been passionate about lots of things from front-end development, linux kernel internals to online marketing (although, I am pretty bad at that) and I believe, that's the reason I can suggest ideas to marketing people who don't know enough technology and to programmers who don't know enough marketing. However, I have learnt to separate facts from knowledge. Reading books about marketing will mostly give you facts without context but if you to talk to people who do marketing or try to raise a blog to several thousand subscribers, you will gain a lot of knowledge. Doing a lot of things, in my experience will give you more perspective and experience than anything else and frankly, there is enough time in the world to do that.
- jiiam 10y agoIn Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, I'm a SpWz of Gozag. In D&D, I'm a utility/crowd control generalist Elf Wizard. In real life I never bothered to check. It's not like I'll get any free spell out of it.
- maus42 10y agoI knew some people who took the DnD ability score classification seriously, and had trouble accepting anything different (some other tabletop RPGs who dared to have different list of abilities...) because they were not "real". (Okay that "some people" was actually me as kid.)
- Kiro 10y ago> This is a f(p)un post intended to highlight the reasons we might often give to ourselves for not doing things in life. So it's not serious, or what? I can totally relate to all this, I really don't want to do anything. Too much hassle.
- blowski 10y agoWhen I first started reading it I thought "Brilliant! Someone else who doesn't dream of running their own business!" So I was disappointed when I realised it was some bizarre attempt at reverse psychology. I'm totally happy being a good Dad, husband, son, grandson, Christian, citizen, whatever. What I do to put money in the bank account and food on the table is just not that big a deal for me.
- hanyoddha 10y agoI really DO NOT want to be an entrepreneur. I've realised that now. But I'm currently jobless and have no intention of getting one soon. Sort of like a sabbatical. So I'm dabbling with writing and basically, experimenting for now.
- alva 10y agoYou come across to me as a nice, honest guy. However, I believe that making statements like this, then asking people to fund [0] your unemployment whilst you pursue hobbies will rub many people the wrong way. [0] https://www.patreon.com/onescientist?ty=h https://www.patreon.com/onescientist?ty=h
- hanyoddha 10y agoThe Patreon thing is totally an experiment. I find it funny putting it in there myself since for now I have nothing to show for except the book I plan to publish. But, I do dream of writing interesting articles, a lot of science fiction, and other interesting things. So, it's just an experiment for now. I definitely do not expect ANYONE to support me as of now.
- atraktor 10y agosure..., you want just to sell your shitty book and be rich over night!
- hanyoddha 10y agoNot even close and it probably IS a shitty book. But I did spend 6 jobless months to think about it and write about it! :) I wrote it for myself. And I'm hoping it might help someone as well. Hell, since you've mentioned it, I will give the book away for free. I'd rather people read it than make me rich.
- mirimir 10y agoHey, you had me going for about four paragraphs, before I figured out that you were joking :) There's this standard advice about making time for relationships, and not being such a bloody workaholic. About psychological deathbed agony, wishing that one had spent more time with family and friends. But for me, I suspect that the agony will be more about all the time that I wasted keeping people happy.
- luxpir 10y agoI think you're entitled to derive some monetary benefit from your writing. However I support the decision to make the book creative commons. Perhaps offer paid versions in some form (audio, epub etc.) or use it as a platform to build your list (which I see you're keen on doing) and seek out speaking opportunities. Oh, and it probably isn't shitty, based on the strength of this article. I'm assuming there will be some light-cringing involved if engineers read it, but I may be wrong, and I'm sure there's a huge audience for this out there. I know self-help stuff gets a bad rep. Completely understandable most of the time. But there's probably a reason it's so popular - i.e. the good stuff is good!
- hanyoddha 10y agoThank you for all advice and support. If it means people would read it, I'd definitely opt for creative commons. I haven't really figured out how to do it, but Google should help with that.. :)
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- 37 10y agoAll I read is what is not wanted. It begs the question; what IS wanted?
- hanyoddha 10y agoConsumerism! lol.. But honestly though, I seem to be in an eternal state of confusion on this one. But I do seem to enjoy writing a lot and I'd probably end up writing more! :)
- bpchaps 10y agoI honestly can't tell if this is real. My dislike started strong, but his reference to useless MBTI crap and peddling of his book in some annoying non-ironic form turns me even more towards disliking, nearing hatred, to him and those like him. It's nonsense on top of nonsense all the way down. If it's real - then he's a self loathing twat who doesn't know how to push his own boundaries. If he can do arts and do any job and essentially anything wants, all because of his look-at-me-I'm-an-ENTP qualities, then he's not obviously pushing his own boundaries and is only acting as a detriment to everybody. Do something to improve others' lives. Don't tell anybody you did it. It's difficult yet possible, time consuming yet financially awful, and gloriless yet commendable. Just do it, asshole. It'll make you feel good about yourself and what you do. Sheesh louise..... If it's not real - learn to mark a clearer point. I need a break from this site.
- hanyoddha 10y agoYou know you're probably right. I haven't pushed my own boundaries. Part of the big reason has been that I've enjoyed starting things but have been terrible at finishing them and it has always bothered me. Even upset me to great extent. But I agree, having the ability and taking action are two different things and there is serious lacking on the "taking action" department for me.
- mirimir 10y ago“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” ― Calvin Coolidge https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/101882.Calvin_Coolidge https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/101882.Calvin_Coolid...
- minipci1321 10y agoInterestingly enough, he also reportedly said: “Don't you know that four fifths of all our troubles in this life would disappear if we would just sit down and keep still?”
- cypher_glyph 10y agoIs it worrying or reassuring that 'politician' and 'soldier' weren't mentioned?
- kgdinesh 10y agothat font though.
- forgotpwtomain 10y agoPeople also don't want to be born in poverty in third-world countries, without access to decent healthcare or education. You are extremely fortunate (read lucky, certainly through no merit of your own) to have had the opportunities that others never will. This kind of self-entitled crap is especially unpleasant to read, but hey maybe it will sell your book.
- hanyoddha 10y agoYou are right, I've been blessed, in the sense that I have no responsibilities or children or old parents to take care of and I feel even more lucky that my parents have always been extremely supportive in whatever career or profession I chose to take. But I do take solace in the fact that I've never been dependent on anyone financially or otherwise, since I've saved up quite a bit all these years.
- DavidWanjiru 10y agoSince we're talking life and pseudo science, here's my pseudo scientific take on life: Everything everyone does in life is aimed at getting two things, love in all its degenerate cases, and knowledge. Love from ourselves to ourselves, love from others, and love, now or in some future, from our deities. That, and knowing what this whole life and universe thing is all about.
- return0 10y agoThe post is joking, but its actually good advice to not do things if you don't "feel" enough for them. There is an epidemic of middle class neurotic fear of "missing out". E.g. the author has a very varied bio, but i've never heard of him, probably because he does none of those things excellently.
- pjc50 10y agothe author has a very varied bio, but i've never heard of him In a world of 7 billion people you've heard of everyone worth knowing about?
- return0 10y agoyes.
- hanyoddha 10y agoAgreed, a typical Jack of all, master of none. The main problem has been sticking with one thing or one career for long. I tend to get extremely distracted by newer ideas and projects even before completing the one at hand.
- cylinder 10y agoAnd what if you can't imagine doing one thing for longer than say a couple of years? What if you could never get "feels" for that?
- anta40 10y ago>> Why I don't want to do anything with my life Suicide seems to be a good decision, then. Eh but wait, that's doing something with your life, then. :p
- fidrelity 10y agoI don't understand why this article seems to offend many of you in the comments. In my opinion the author doesn't claim to have done and mastered all the careers he talks about. Yes, he's promoting his book - so what? You won't find many articles on here that have no business interest behind it. I for one simply enjoyed the read.
- hanyoddha 10y agoThank you! :)
- neurobuddha 10y agoTo hanyoddha: consider drawing comics, even if it's just as a side-hobby. You have a signature style that looks fresh. And some people actually make a lot of money doing that.
- hanyoddha 10y agoThanks! I do love creating comics. Just not been very consistent. I'll probably be more inclined to create an entire Graphic Novel. I do have a few planned. Hopefully, I will complete it!
- Pooky 10y agoI kind a like it and the book seems also interesting.
- GarvielLoken 10y agoWhat a sad person