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I'm surprised the chancellor hasn't been forced to resign yet. Beyond authorizing the pepper spray incident, she's made many more questionable decisions. 1. Se

I'm surprised the chancellor hasn't been forced to resign yet. Beyond authorizing the pepper spray incident, she's made many more questionable decisions. 1. Serving on the DeVry board without permission from the UC President, and receiving a generous paycheck. All while DeVry is under federal investigation. 2. Serving on the board of a company selling textbooks to students and receiving stock-based compensation totaling half a million. 3. Apparently now spending tens of thousands of dollars to scrub her previous mistakes from the Internet.

wl 10y ago
I'm surprised that the chancellor wasn't forced to resign after the release of the Kroll and Reynoso reports about the pepper spray incident. The police action against the protestors was illegal and the police department knew it. They only went forward because of Katehi's mistaken insistence that the occupiers were not members of the campus community and needed to be removed before the weekend lest these outsiders rape students. Had the police department handled the situation the way they wanted to, they would have removed the tents at night (when the laws against camping were clearly being violated) and when there weren't large crowds around.
- labster 10y ago
  There's only one reason they ever remove a UC Chancellor: they stop raising money for the University. Donor cash is job one. Obviously, she's good at her job if she makes money, even if she moonlights in jobs that actively harm students. The only solution is to stop donating to UC Davis -- and UC in general. If the Annual Fund calls you, ask them "Has Katehi resigned yet?" That's what I do. If you really want to help students at UCD, give to ASUCD or CalPIRG or something, not to a slush fund of a Chancellor who spends student fees on her own image. Disclaimer: UCD alumnus here. Edit: Although five lawmakers calling for her resignation might also decrease donations to the UC: http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/the-public-eye/article71848252.html http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/the-public-eye/art...
  - tkinom 10y ago
    Good idea, will ask that question next time when I get the "Annual Fund" call.
  - alanh 10y ago
    When students from my own alma mater call and ask for contributions, I have on occasion related how I was a student when the 2008 financial crisis happened, and that my school’s response was to charge every student an extra $500 a semester and call it an “economic recovery fee.” This from a state school where the state Constitution required education to be “as free or nearly free as possible”!
  - ginko 10y ago
    This might sound silly but why would an alumnus, who spent thousands for tuition already, donate money to his university in the first place?
    - danso 10y ago
      The alumni who donate do so because they believe they got far more than their money's worth and they have enough money today to "pay it forward", so to speak. Because the return on investment for education is something that takes a non-deterministic amount of time to realize (both monetarily and in personal reflection), it's not coincidence that most most alumni donors do so decades after graduation.
    - pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
      so they don't tell the world about that night you raped a girl ,and they covered it up for you and expelled the girl for violating the honor code.
    - labster 10y ago
      Because University was the best time in your life, and every day now is a dreary slog of mediocrity. By giving money, you can reclaim a part of your glory days that won't come again. You can feel like giving to other students will help their lives, as a pale imitation of what it would be like to be with that group again, having fun and chasing girls instead of supporting a dead-end marriage with a mind-numbing job. If you have enough money, you can even inject your name into student life by getting a building named after you -- you can prove to everyone that you are a success, even if you're still unhappy and growing older by the day. Or maybe you just believe in supporting higher education. Either way.
kafkaesq 10y ago
Apparently now spending tens of thousands of dollars to scrub her previous mistakes from the Internet. Upwards of $175,000, according to the Sacramento Bee article.
sitkack 10y ago
But she was a true benefactor for all these wonderful images, https://www.google.com/search?q=uc+davis+pepper+spray+meme&biw=1436&bih=805&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X https://www.google.com/search?q=uc+davis+pepper+spray+meme&b... Isn't active "cleaning up" of the internet by a government entity a violation of those people's free speech?
- Sanddancer 10y ago
  No. The cleaning up, though reprehensible, is not violating their free speech, because there's no prior restraint and no legal penalties. However, the Chancellor will hopefully have a significant amount of explaining to do as to why she is spending so much of the public's money on this whitewashing.
  - sitkack 10y ago
    If someone uses public money to erase your words isn't that cenorship?
prawn 10y ago
#2 is an unhealthy conflict of interest that saddens me. I remember buying $100 textbooks that were quickly out of date and too heavy to lug around. Anyone in a senior position like this should have the interests of students and their education at heart and be doing everything they can to provide students with accurate and affordable learning materials. In fact, I don't see why their creation shouldn't be subsidised and so they can be freely provided in electronic format to students. The curriculum should be free of copyright.
- ethbro 10y ago
  I remember buying $200 textbooks that were absolutely terrible. The professors I respected most were those that said either "none of the course materials will be taken directly from the book" or "there will be no book for this class, here are a number of texts that are good, get a used copy from Amazon." PS: For anyone in undergrad, #1 question when you start a semester -- email professors and ask if the text is required, and if so, whether a previous version can be used. (I know publishers are getting worse and worse about one-time-use codes and "enhanced offerings" though)
  - prawn 10y ago
    I have read about those shady techniques from publishers. Universities should refuse to deal with them and those proven to take favours for making these publishers required should be penalised.
    - ethbro 10y ago
      Ultimately, students make a pretty poor voting demographic (especially in Republican state legislatures in the south). So if a college earns some kind of financial benefit from choosing a particular text "solution", then that's money the state doesn't have to fund. If students want this to change then they need to organize politically and make it a clear demand, as they're the only stakeholders impacted by higher priced textbooks.
  - anamexis 10y ago
cloudjacker 10y ago
lets see $500,000 + generous salary $10,000 for perception management easy bet for me too

wl 10y ago

I'm surprised that the chancellor wasn't forced to resign after the release of the Kroll and Reynoso reports about the pepper spray incident. The police action against the protestors was illegal and the police department knew it. They only went forward because of Katehi's mistaken insistence that the occupiers were not members of the campus community and needed to be removed before the weekend lest these outsiders rape students. Had the police department handled the situation the way they wanted to, they would have removed the tents at night (when the laws against camping were clearly being violated) and when there weren't large crowds around.

labster 10y ago
There's only one reason they ever remove a UC Chancellor: they stop raising money for the University. Donor cash is job one. Obviously, she's good at her job if she makes money, even if she moonlights in jobs that actively harm students. The only solution is to stop donating to UC Davis -- and UC in general. If the Annual Fund calls you, ask them "Has Katehi resigned yet?" That's what I do. If you really want to help students at UCD, give to ASUCD or CalPIRG or something, not to a slush fund of a Chancellor who spends student fees on her own image. Disclaimer: UCD alumnus here. Edit: Although five lawmakers calling for her resignation might also decrease donations to the UC: http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/the-public-eye/article71848252.html http://www.sacbee.com/news/investigations/the-public-eye/art...
- tkinom 10y ago
  Good idea, will ask that question next time when I get the "Annual Fund" call.
- alanh 10y ago
  When students from my own alma mater call and ask for contributions, I have on occasion related how I was a student when the 2008 financial crisis happened, and that my school’s response was to charge every student an extra $500 a semester and call it an “economic recovery fee.” This from a state school where the state Constitution required education to be “as free or nearly free as possible”!
- ginko 10y ago
  This might sound silly but why would an alumnus, who spent thousands for tuition already, donate money to his university in the first place?
  - danso 10y ago
    The alumni who donate do so because they believe they got far more than their money's worth and they have enough money today to "pay it forward", so to speak. Because the return on investment for education is something that takes a non-deterministic amount of time to realize (both monetarily and in personal reflection), it's not coincidence that most most alumni donors do so decades after graduation.
  - pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
    so they don't tell the world about that night you raped a girl ,and they covered it up for you and expelled the girl for violating the honor code.
  - labster 10y ago
    Because University was the best time in your life, and every day now is a dreary slog of mediocrity. By giving money, you can reclaim a part of your glory days that won't come again. You can feel like giving to other students will help their lives, as a pale imitation of what it would be like to be with that group again, having fun and chasing girls instead of supporting a dead-end marriage with a mind-numbing job. If you have enough money, you can even inject your name into student life by getting a building named after you -- you can prove to everyone that you are a success, even if you're still unhappy and growing older by the day. Or maybe you just believe in supporting higher education. Either way.

kafkaesq 10y ago

Apparently now spending tens of thousands of dollars to scrub her previous mistakes from the Internet. Upwards of $175,000, according to the Sacramento Bee article.

sitkack 10y ago

But she was a true benefactor for all these wonderful images, https://www.google.com/search?q=uc+davis+pepper+spray+meme&biw=1436&bih=805&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X https://www.google.com/search?q=uc+davis+pepper+spray+meme&b... Isn't active "cleaning up" of the internet by a government entity a violation of those people's free speech?

Sanddancer 10y ago
No. The cleaning up, though reprehensible, is not violating their free speech, because there's no prior restraint and no legal penalties. However, the Chancellor will hopefully have a significant amount of explaining to do as to why she is spending so much of the public's money on this whitewashing.
- sitkack 10y ago
  If someone uses public money to erase your words isn't that cenorship?

prawn 10y ago

#2 is an unhealthy conflict of interest that saddens me. I remember buying $100 textbooks that were quickly out of date and too heavy to lug around. Anyone in a senior position like this should have the interests of students and their education at heart and be doing everything they can to provide students with accurate and affordable learning materials. In fact, I don't see why their creation shouldn't be subsidised and so they can be freely provided in electronic format to students. The curriculum should be free of copyright.

ethbro 10y ago
I remember buying $200 textbooks that were absolutely terrible. The professors I respected most were those that said either "none of the course materials will be taken directly from the book" or "there will be no book for this class, here are a number of texts that are good, get a used copy from Amazon." PS: For anyone in undergrad, #1 question when you start a semester -- email professors and ask if the text is required, and if so, whether a previous version can be used. (I know publishers are getting worse and worse about one-time-use codes and "enhanced offerings" though)
- prawn 10y ago
  I have read about those shady techniques from publishers. Universities should refuse to deal with them and those proven to take favours for making these publishers required should be penalised.
  - ethbro 10y ago
    Ultimately, students make a pretty poor voting demographic (especially in Republican state legislatures in the south). So if a college earns some kind of financial benefit from choosing a particular text "solution", then that's money the state doesn't have to fund. If students want this to change then they need to organize politically and make it a clear demand, as they're the only stakeholders impacted by higher priced textbooks.
- anamexis 10y ago

cloudjacker 10y ago

lets see $500,000 + generous salary $10,000 for perception management easy bet for me too