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>Who cares? People who are hurt by drug cartels. It is one thing to let people grow their own pot and sell it when they are law abiding (or otherwise law abid

>Who cares? People who are hurt by drug cartels. It is one thing to let people grow their own pot and sell it when they are law abiding (or otherwise law abiding) individuals. But when you get drugs from the drug cartel, the harm that goes into the production makes it wrong to use. We should support legal production and importation from human sources. But we should not legalize anything coming from the cartels.

a3n 11y ago
Agreed, and have for years, on both legalization and cartel boycotting. Every toke of cartel pot is a trigger pull. We boycott and divest from companies for various human rights violations, why not boycott cartels?
TeMPOraL 11y ago
The problem is that cartels make money because of this enforcement. US War on Drugs actually fuels the black markets and the cartels.
naasking 11y ago
> But when you get drugs from the drug cartel, the harm that goes into the production makes it wrong to use. That doesn't really follow. Nazi medical experiments were wholely unethical, but it would be completely unethical not use whatever knowledge they gained to save other people's lives. Perhaps what you meant to say is that it would be wrong to pay for the drugs so the cartels actually benefit from their unethical behaviour. I agree with that, but that doesn't make the drugs unethical to use.
- sitkack 11y ago
  It absolutely would be unethical to use that knowledge in any way. Are u kidding, this provides a huge loophole creation of unethical research.
  - naasking 11y ago
    Absolutely not unethical. The damage is already done, and you're just doing more damage by not using it. It's irrational. There's sufficient disincentive to conducting more unethical research by the simple fact that you'll go to jail. This wasn't a consideration in Nazi Germany.
    - sitkack 11y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  I do mean pay. I'm kinda assuming someone isn't going to be stealing from the cartel. That would be... bad for ones health.

a3n 11y ago

Agreed, and have for years, on both legalization and cartel boycotting. Every toke of cartel pot is a trigger pull. We boycott and divest from companies for various human rights violations, why not boycott cartels?

TeMPOraL 11y ago

The problem is that cartels make money because of this enforcement. US War on Drugs actually fuels the black markets and the cartels.

naasking 11y ago

> But when you get drugs from the drug cartel, the harm that goes into the production makes it wrong to use. That doesn't really follow. Nazi medical experiments were wholely unethical, but it would be completely unethical not use whatever knowledge they gained to save other people's lives. Perhaps what you meant to say is that it would be wrong to pay for the drugs so the cartels actually benefit from their unethical behaviour. I agree with that, but that doesn't make the drugs unethical to use.

sitkack 11y ago
It absolutely would be unethical to use that knowledge in any way. Are u kidding, this provides a huge loophole creation of unethical research.
- naasking 11y ago
  Absolutely not unethical. The damage is already done, and you're just doing more damage by not using it. It's irrational. There's sufficient disincentive to conducting more unethical research by the simple fact that you'll go to jail. This wasn't a consideration in Nazi Germany.
  - sitkack 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
Lawtonfogle 11y ago
I do mean pay. I'm kinda assuming someone isn't going to be stealing from the cartel. That would be... bad for ones health.