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I've never used Tinder, but if they have an office in the EU, then they fall under EU Data Protection Directive, and hence they're required to tell you what per

by rmc 11y ago

I've never used Tinder, but if they have an office in the EU, then they fall under EU Data Protection Directive, and hence they're required to tell you what personal data they hold on you. If they are US only, well, that's why the Safe Harbour law was struck down.

hkjgkjy 11y ago
Yet another good reason to stay away from/not start tech companies in the EU. // European entrepreneur with grudges towards the EU gov
- kaio 11y ago
  Why do you feel this is bad? If you use my personal data and score me with some obscure system, i think it is just fair to tell me. If you score me bad, i deserve at least to know it before i run into problems Ok.. for a dating app it might not be that important but rating systems like the schufa(credit trust network) already have big influence on my daily live.
  - hkjgkjy 11y ago
    Well, you are saying it's not that bad yourself! Scheiße Mann. The EU takes bigger mandates than it should. I'd wish for it to keep the peace and let people trade and travel freely, but why should it decide more? When Berlusconi (the Donald Trump of Italy) was in power a good argument used to be "why would I want the Italians to decide who is in my parliament, if they vote someone like that into their own?" The Data Retention Directive (Datalagringsdirektivet in my language, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive) is a shit law that invades my privacy. My government (the Swedish) has been paying high fines for years because they didn't implement it. It was deemed illegal in 2014. Having to pay the VAT (Mehrwertsteuer) at the rate of the country where the customer is located, having to include the stupid cookie notice. I mean, the list goes on with just countless stupid things that Brüssels bureaucrats feel the need to enforce upon all of us. The free trade in EU is great for trade, but for online business they are causing more pain than good.
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pgodzin 11y ago
Would this actually be considered "personal data" in the EU? Obviously things like name, age, gender, etc are personal data, but a rating derived from only in-app judgements by other people and only relevant in-app? That makes it sound like every column in every database where your name is they key is considered "personal data." That doesn't really fit with my common sense interpretation of it.
- tonfa 11y ago
  I'd say at least for the ELO score it would apply (I think what you quote is PII, data that could be used to identify someone, not personal data): > (a) 'personal data' shall mean any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person ('data subject'); an identifiable person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identification number or to one or more factors specific to his physical, physiological, mental, economic, cultural or social identity; http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:31995L0046 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:319...
  - pgodzin 11y ago
    So it literally means all data in which the person is the key of the data row?
    - germanier 11y ago
      Yes, all data that is stored about a user. I don't need to ask some service to tell me my age. But I'm grateful I can ask them what else they know about me.

by rmc 11y ago

hkjgkjy 11y ago

Yet another good reason to stay away from/not start tech companies in the EU. // European entrepreneur with grudges towards the EU gov

kaio 11y ago
Why do you feel this is bad? If you use my personal data and score me with some obscure system, i think it is just fair to tell me. If you score me bad, i deserve at least to know it before i run into problems Ok.. for a dating app it might not be that important but rating systems like the schufa(credit trust network) already have big influence on my daily live.
- hkjgkjy 11y ago
  Well, you are saying it's not that bad yourself! Scheiße Mann. The EU takes bigger mandates than it should. I'd wish for it to keep the peace and let people trade and travel freely, but why should it decide more? When Berlusconi (the Donald Trump of Italy) was in power a good argument used to be "why would I want the Italians to decide who is in my parliament, if they vote someone like that into their own?" The Data Retention Directive (Datalagringsdirektivet in my language, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive) is a shit law that invades my privacy. My government (the Swedish) has been paying high fines for years because they didn't implement it. It was deemed illegal in 2014. Having to pay the VAT (Mehrwertsteuer) at the rate of the country where the customer is located, having to include the stupid cookie notice. I mean, the list goes on with just countless stupid things that Brüssels bureaucrats feel the need to enforce upon all of us. The free trade in EU is great for trade, but for online business they are causing more pain than good.
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pgodzin 11y ago

Would this actually be considered "personal data" in the EU? Obviously things like name, age, gender, etc are personal data, but a rating derived from only in-app judgements by other people and only relevant in-app? That makes it sound like every column in every database where your name is they key is considered "personal data." That doesn't really fit with my common sense interpretation of it.

tonfa 11y ago
I'd say at least for the ELO score it would apply (I think what you quote is PII, data that could be used to identify someone, not personal data): > (a) 'personal data' shall mean any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person ('data subject'); an identifiable person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identification number or to one or more factors specific to his physical, physiological, mental, economic, cultural or social identity; http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:31995L0046 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX:319...
- pgodzin 11y ago
  So it literally means all data in which the person is the key of the data row?
  - germanier 11y ago
    Yes, all data that is stored about a user. I don't need to ask some service to tell me my age. But I'm grateful I can ask them what else they know about me.