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Aetna's CEO pays workers up to $500 to sleep
- jevinskie 11y agoDo you have to get all 20 days of 7+ hours of sleep in a row with no screw-ups? If so, seems rather unlikely to happen!
- HappyTypist 11y agoWell, you have a whole year to get a consecutive 20 days. I think the goal is to build a habit.
- JustResign 11y agoThe article is poorly phrased -- I believe the "in a row" applies to (7+ hours of sleep) instead of (20 days of 7+ hours of sleep). In other words, just the seven hours of sleep has to be contiguous?
- corin_ 11y ago"In a row" wouldn't normally be used with units of time like that, it implies something happening each time (in this case the 7+ hours of sleep, happening each night)
- lambertsimnel 11y agoBertolini is quoted as saying "up $500 a year". Assuming he meant "up to $500 a year", a run of fewer than twenty days would lead to a reward. Presumably only the longest run of the year counts.
- perlgeek 11y ago... especially if you have family members (like small kids) that can wake you up, and you have no control over that.
- mac01021 11y agoDon't most people sleep at least 7 hours continuously almost every night?
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- dmarlow 11y agoSeems like a PR move more than anything else. I'm tired of hearing about all of these weird benefits. How about just an awesome place to work that pays well?
- danharaj 11y agoWeird benefits are a result of employers trying to incentivize their workers to behave in certain ways.
- Godel_unicode 11y agoFor example, the weird benefit that many US companies give their employees reduced healthcare premiums if they certify that they are tobacco-free
- jasonkostempski 11y agoIf it's a PR move then they think the public they're relating to is dumb as hell because they're giving $500 to their employees instead of paying out the legitimate claims they're supposed to, causing doctors to drop them en masse while the customers left stuck with them have no place to get proper medical service.
- tbrooks 11y agoIt does pay well. :)
- voodootrucker 11y agoThis seems like a creepy overreach into personal matters that's bound to continue, and likely end badly.
- Godel_unicode 11y agoI'm curious how you see a voluntary program to pay employees to do something they should be doing anyway is creepy and/or overreach?
- ralmidani 11y agoThe program being voluntary does not make it un-creepy to use devices which track what an employee is doing at home. Many people use non-free software and devices which can (and often do) spy on them. It's voluntary, but the spying is still creepy.
- atomical 11y agoVoluntary work from home policy (required for work from home): We can visit and photograph your desk at home any time we want. I have seen contracts like this and it's becoming more and more popular.
- pmiller2 11y agoWhere?
- Godel_unicode 11y agoCitation needed
- thefrostytruth 11y agoI understand that it's voluntary, but the company has literally followed its employee into the bedroom, via remote sensor. It's easy to see how that might be unsettling to some, even to suggest, "hey, wear this leash on your off hours, and I'll give you extra money."
- MrTonyD 11y agoI hate insurance companies. For one, they refused to pay for pre-approved claims when my wife had cancer and was being treated at Stanford (We were double-insured. Apparently, when you have two insurances, it is common for carriers to decline payments in the hope that the other insurance will pay it.) So my wife couldn't get out of bed and we literally had a stack of unpaid bills over a foot high and totaling over a half-million dollars. Another reason to hate them is what I learned from consulting for insurance companies. I've been told first-hand stories by claims-adjusters about how the fax machine is intentionally put on the other side of their building and the CEO's assistant goes by and throws out all the papers. (The have the sense not to question why that is done.) And they discover that anyone paying too many legitimate claims gets fired. And their doctor's "reviews" only exist to look for people who might die and have the family resources to sue, and to decline legitimate claims so that enough people give up on their insurance claims. They cry when telling these stories. Addendum: My wife lived - but the experience was more horrible than I have words to describe. And I'm fortunate that I could afford to hire a consultant to work with the insurance company billing. It took 2 years, but we got most of it paid. I eventually wrote a check for a few thousand dollars to try to undo the damage to my credit report. To this day, I'm not sure why I had to pay that money and why it took two years when I had "great" insurance through two companies.
- meesles 11y agoThat's what happens when you make a for-profit business out of people's health, hoping the clients either never make a claim or that you can loophole your way out of saving some zeroes in a spreadsheet. Unfortunately, those zeroes could be the difference between your spouse living or dying. The underlying problem is a flawed healthcare system, but with even socialist countries' citizens starting to have to buy insurance to get the care they need [0], I'm skeptical any easy or relatively short-term solution exists. [0]http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/22/socialist-swedes-take-to-private-health http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/22/socialist-swedes-take-to-p...
- artursapek 11y agoTwo years ago my wife and I were unable to get Aetna to pay for a home birth, even though we got it approved ahead of time. After months of futile phone calls where they basically kept me on hold for 30 minutes and then told me to fuck off, what finally got them to pay up was an angry tweet I wrote. I thought it was silly, but was advised to try it as a last resort by the midwife's billing assistant. Amazingly, they reached out and immediately paid for it in full when they saw the tweet. I wonder how many people never try what I tried, and simply never get their claims paid after getting filtered out by their phone network. Horrible system.
- roflchoppa 11y agoMark seemed to have the conversation under control with all questions being fired off. From the ~500 datapoints i have regarding my sleep from sleepcycle I would also say that sleep plays a large factor in how I can perform in my school tasks. Now at around 7 hours of sleep, Ill land to a "~70% sleep quality". At that point, I am able to perform the task in class, with little feelings of distractions, drowsiness. etc.
- stegosaurus 11y agoI wouldn't wear a fitbit for $500 a year.
- chinathrow 11y agoAttach it to your neighbours dog. Instant profit!