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Starter VPS: New Affordable Variants

76 points by RussianCow 11y ago

fweespee_ch 11y ago
Just realize these are basically: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc 1x Intel® C2750 (Avoton) with 8 cores. Avoton cores are very weak compared to other cloud providers.
- aroch 11y ago
  Except these are ARM cores not Intel: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/
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  - dsp1234 11y ago
    FTA: "VC1 cloud servers, based on x86-64 CPUs, again engineered by our eletronics team."
  - kasbah 11y ago
    These are virtual x86_64 servers, their non virtual ARM ones seem to be the C1x and C2x.
- antouank 11y ago
  I had the same opinion initially, but I did some testing to the machines I had available. You can see the benchmarks here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/114A7kl6BHqsZ0qPjG8B8IA_U3i7FRz6mD9CR416LVAo/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/document/d/114A7kl6BHqsZ0qPjG8B8IA_U... I got my site ( https://hack.ernews.info https://hack.ernews.info ) up on a C2S machine in Scaleway, and I'm pretty satisfied with it so far as value/money
alicewales 11y ago
So this is a company selling VPS hosting - not sure why it's newsworthy. Their ARM servers were innovative, this not so much so.
nodesocket 11y ago
Bare Metal has lots of practical applications: Docker, CI, Databases... However, I have no idea how Scaleaway is getting away with selling a Bare Metal server with 6 cores, 8GB memory, and 200GB of SSD disk for 10 euros a month. That's just doesn't make any financial sense. If you're looking for a solid and reputable Bare Metal provider that allows you provision on demand all with a great control panel and API check out https://packet.net https://packet.net.
- fweespee_ch 11y ago
  I'm just going to nuke this post since the consensus seems to be its offensive somehow. :P
  - nodesocket 11y ago
    https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ I'm talk about this pricing (bare metal) not the blog post for VPS. I'd appreciate toning down the douchiness.
  - RussianCow 11y ago
    > You are attacking someone who has been in business longer than the service you are advocating on the basis of you knowing their financial situation better than they do. Maybe you should consider that isn't a good position to be taking in general rather than resorting to personal attacks? I think you're seriously overreacting. You could have easily responded to the OP's point without the condescension and calling them "clueless". I didn't think the OP seemed like an attack at all, rather just skepticism. Your response, however, seems very much like an unwarranted personal attack.
- drdaeman 11y ago
  Took a look at their pricing page. That trend of showing per-hour fraction-of-dollar pricing is really disturbing. Who rents a host for an hour? (Well, I can surely imagine use cases, like spawning a beefy host for a day while getting abnormally high traffic, but I seriously doubt it's common.) Type 0: $0.05/hour ≈ $36.50/mo; Type 1: $0.40/hour ≈ $292/mo; Type 2: $1.00/hour ≈ $730/mo; Type 3: $1.70/hour ≈ $1277.5/mo
cdnsteve 11y ago
Sounds like the traditional overselling to me. Not sure why this is HN frontpage? No different than 99% of hosting providers.
cloudjacker 11y ago
Wish more guys would take cryptocurrency.
- snowpanda 11y ago
  I agree, especially for small amounts like 3 Euros per month.
jensvdh 11y ago
How is this comparable to Digital Ocean? Their prices are about 1/5th. So it almost feels like a nobrainer to migrate to DO or am I missing something here?
- fweespee_ch 11y ago
  DO is slightly more reliable and uses substantially more powerful processors so on a low contention host, you can get better performance. The catch with these are shared Avoton CPUs. So their "large" 9.99 plan is likely 4 VPS on a single 8 core Avoton would be my guess.
  - abermingham 11y ago
    Not so sure ... There is a BIG gap and strategy difference between - thousands of VM on 8 or 16 Xeon cores - Scaleway technology with only few VM per node (2 to 6) with dedicated Avoton cores and dedicated memory (no oversubscribing) Most of clients reports huge performances differences, and it's very easy to measure the difference. That's why VC1x VPS are so so good, constant performances, and for this price, it's really awesome
ju-st 11y ago
Lesson learned: Cheap prices imply low quality.

76 points by RussianCow 11y ago

Just realize these are basically: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc 1x Intel® C2750 (Avoton) with 8 cores. Avoton cores are very weak compared to other cloud providers.

aroch 11y ago
Except these are ARM cores not Intel: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/
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- dsp1234 11y ago
  FTA: "VC1 cloud servers, based on x86-64 CPUs, again engineered by our eletronics team."
- kasbah 11y ago
  These are virtual x86_64 servers, their non virtual ARM ones seem to be the C1x and C2x.
antouank 11y ago
I had the same opinion initially, but I did some testing to the machines I had available. You can see the benchmarks here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/114A7kl6BHqsZ0qPjG8B8IA_U3i7FRz6mD9CR416LVAo/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/document/d/114A7kl6BHqsZ0qPjG8B8IA_U... I got my site ( https://hack.ernews.info https://hack.ernews.info ) up on a C2S machine in Scaleway, and I'm pretty satisfied with it so far as value/money

alicewales 11y ago

So this is a company selling VPS hosting - not sure why it's newsworthy. Their ARM servers were innovative, this not so much so.

nodesocket 11y ago

Bare Metal has lots of practical applications: Docker, CI, Databases... However, I have no idea how Scaleaway is getting away with selling a Bare Metal server with 6 cores, 8GB memory, and 200GB of SSD disk for 10 euros a month. That's just doesn't make any financial sense. If you're looking for a solid and reputable Bare Metal provider that allows you provision on demand all with a great control panel and API check out https://packet.net https://packet.net.

fweespee_ch 11y ago
I'm just going to nuke this post since the consensus seems to be its offensive somehow. :P
- nodesocket 11y ago
  https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ I'm talk about this pricing (bare metal) not the blog post for VPS. I'd appreciate toning down the douchiness.
- RussianCow 11y ago
  > You are attacking someone who has been in business longer than the service you are advocating on the basis of you knowing their financial situation better than they do. Maybe you should consider that isn't a good position to be taking in general rather than resorting to personal attacks? I think you're seriously overreacting. You could have easily responded to the OP's point without the condescension and calling them "clueless". I didn't think the OP seemed like an attack at all, rather just skepticism. Your response, however, seems very much like an unwarranted personal attack.
drdaeman 11y ago
Took a look at their pricing page. That trend of showing per-hour fraction-of-dollar pricing is really disturbing. Who rents a host for an hour? (Well, I can surely imagine use cases, like spawning a beefy host for a day while getting abnormally high traffic, but I seriously doubt it's common.) Type 0: $0.05/hour ≈ $36.50/mo; Type 1: $0.40/hour ≈ $292/mo; Type 2: $1.00/hour ≈ $730/mo; Type 3: $1.70/hour ≈ $1277.5/mo

cdnsteve 11y ago

Sounds like the traditional overselling to me. Not sure why this is HN frontpage? No different than 99% of hosting providers.

cloudjacker 11y ago

Wish more guys would take cryptocurrency.

snowpanda 11y ago
I agree, especially for small amounts like 3 Euros per month.

jensvdh 11y ago

How is this comparable to Digital Ocean? Their prices are about 1/5th. So it almost feels like a nobrainer to migrate to DO or am I missing something here?

fweespee_ch 11y ago
DO is slightly more reliable and uses substantially more powerful processors so on a low contention host, you can get better performance. The catch with these are shared Avoton CPUs. So their "large" 9.99 plan is likely 4 VPS on a single 8 core Avoton would be my guess.
- abermingham 11y ago
  Not so sure ... There is a BIG gap and strategy difference between - thousands of VM on 8 or 16 Xeon cores - Scaleway technology with only few VM per node (2 to 6) with dedicated Avoton cores and dedicated memory (no oversubscribing) Most of clients reports huge performances differences, and it's very easy to measure the difference. That's why VC1x VPS are so so good, constant performances, and for this price, it's really awesome

ju-st 11y ago

Lesson learned: Cheap prices imply low quality.