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It's not worrying at all. Running a Tor exit node in itself isn't a problem. The problem arises when the exit node operator knowingly is giving up control over

It's not worrying at all. Running a Tor exit node in itself isn't a problem. The problem arises when the exit node operator knowingly is giving up control over the traffic going through his connection. If you run a tor exit node you need to accept the fact there is a chance something illegal is passing through and that when it happens (as it did here) you are going to get investigated. It would be irresponsible and neglectful for law enforcement not to raid this man's home.

EdHominem 11y ago
They probably sent the picture in the first place.
- peppaz 11y ago
  This probably isn't wrong, the FBI is the largest holder of CP in the world, last time it was reported on.
  - Godel_unicode 11y ago
    They have copies of CP collected as evidence, therefore they are distributing it? By this logic, the DEA evidence locker might make them the biggest crack dealer in the US.
    - FireBeyond 11y ago
      The FBI has, on multiple admitted occasions, ran both honeypots for CP, and on seizing a CP site, continued to run it for multiple months to get more suspects. I have no issue with the intent, and such things are - in a restricted manner - allowed for, see prostitution stings. But the fact that they -do- distribute CP is verifiable fact.
      - lotharbot 11y ago
        and the fact that they hold large amounts of CP -- which is the wording the prior post used -- is also verifiable fact. I'm not even concerned that they hold it. Sometimes it's evidence. Sometimes it can be used to identify and rescue victims. Sometimes it just goes in a database and isn't ever accessed again. Meh. The continued distribution is concerning, though I understand its purpose, and I presume there are reasonable safeguards in place such that the value in catching new suspects is higher than the harm done to the victims.
      - adventured 11y ago
        The only example I'm aware of, regarding your claim about the FBI operating a site for months, was not in fact the FBI continuing to operate a CP site. In that instance, they kept allowing attempts at signing up to access CP, they did not keep allowing access to the content; the FBI clarified that point when the story came out.
        FireBeyond 11y ago
        I appreciate the clarification - I was not aware of that detail, which is an important distinction to make.
        EdHominem 11y ago
        I wasn't referring to the quantity of illegal images, merely that the FBI had burned its credibility by playing with the NSA: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-dea-fbi-snowden-doj-oig/ http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-dea-fbi-snowden-doj-oig... At that, one has to assume that they "planted" the image in question because they've proven their willingness to play dirty.
godgod 11y ago
> It would be irresponsible and neglectful for law enforcement not to raid this man's home. Common sense doesn't dictate a "RAID" here. A simple knock and a 2 minute conversation would suffice. No need to kick down a door at 6am for something simple. People get shot that way.

EdHominem 11y ago

They probably sent the picture in the first place.

peppaz 11y ago
This probably isn't wrong, the FBI is the largest holder of CP in the world, last time it was reported on.
- Godel_unicode 11y ago
  They have copies of CP collected as evidence, therefore they are distributing it? By this logic, the DEA evidence locker might make them the biggest crack dealer in the US.
  - FireBeyond 11y ago
    The FBI has, on multiple admitted occasions, ran both honeypots for CP, and on seizing a CP site, continued to run it for multiple months to get more suspects. I have no issue with the intent, and such things are - in a restricted manner - allowed for, see prostitution stings. But the fact that they -do- distribute CP is verifiable fact.
    - lotharbot 11y ago
      and the fact that they hold large amounts of CP -- which is the wording the prior post used -- is also verifiable fact. I'm not even concerned that they hold it. Sometimes it's evidence. Sometimes it can be used to identify and rescue victims. Sometimes it just goes in a database and isn't ever accessed again. Meh. The continued distribution is concerning, though I understand its purpose, and I presume there are reasonable safeguards in place such that the value in catching new suspects is higher than the harm done to the victims.
    - adventured 11y ago
      The only example I'm aware of, regarding your claim about the FBI operating a site for months, was not in fact the FBI continuing to operate a CP site. In that instance, they kept allowing attempts at signing up to access CP, they did not keep allowing access to the content; the FBI clarified that point when the story came out.
      - FireBeyond 11y ago
        I appreciate the clarification - I was not aware of that detail, which is an important distinction to make.
      - EdHominem 11y ago
        I wasn't referring to the quantity of illegal images, merely that the FBI had burned its credibility by playing with the NSA: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-dea-fbi-snowden-doj-oig/ http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-dea-fbi-snowden-doj-oig... At that, one has to assume that they "planted" the image in question because they've proven their willingness to play dirty.

godgod 11y ago

> It would be irresponsible and neglectful for law enforcement not to raid this man's home. Common sense doesn't dictate a "RAID" here. A simple knock and a 2 minute conversation would suffice. No need to kick down a door at 6am for something simple. People get shot that way.