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It seems to be full of people who want to be near art and "cool" people. Unfortunately tech doesn't find a way to pay those creators of culture anything. If any

by api 11y ago

It seems to be full of people who want to be near art and "cool" people. Unfortunately tech doesn't find a way to pay those creators of culture anything. If anything, the focus is on finding ways to make everything free. So tech moves in, enjoys the presence of creative culture they refuse to fund, but ultimately inflates real estate so much they drive that creative culture away. Rinse and repeat. If art and culture are so valuable to us why are those who create these things so poor? Why do people cringe at buying an album for $9 but then spend $11 on a coffee and a biscuit?

cloudjacker 11y ago
Because its not just any form of expression that people want. The artists shouldn't have balked at taking a class in economics.
Apocryphon 11y ago
I'm not sure if a lot of the hip tech transplants want art. They just want the aesthetics.
- api 11y ago
  I think what they want is culture, which is produced by people who love their communities and who don't work 90 hours a week so they have time to actually do it.
gd2 11y ago
True, but isn't part of it that one thinks that on the $9 album, the marketing and media company folks gets $8.50 of $9.00 But there is also artistry in creating a coffee or dining experience, and hopefully that money spent on the meal and coffee goes more to the chef artist who prepared the meal, the architect artist who designed the space, and the line cook, waitress and dishwasher.
seivan 11y ago
Tech isn't creative and artistic? Why is an "album" worth more than a graphics engine, drawing app or game? If anything music is overvalued. I'm surprised we haven't automated Skrillex and all that house crap yet. ;-)
- rfrank 11y ago
  > Why is an "album" worth more than a graphics engine... Why is a Picasso worth more than paint?
  - seivan 11y ago
    Because the introduction of GPU's didn't come until 30~ years ago ;-) also it's a single physical item. It's more of a collective piece than actual art, at least today.
prmph 11y ago
One interesting explanation is that people seem to think (maybe rightly) that art and culture are cheapened by too much money. To be authentic, art and culture needs to be nearer to the struggling edges of society.

by api 11y ago

cloudjacker 11y ago

Because its not just any form of expression that people want. The artists shouldn't have balked at taking a class in economics.

Apocryphon 11y ago

I'm not sure if a lot of the hip tech transplants want art. They just want the aesthetics.

api 11y ago
I think what they want is culture, which is produced by people who love their communities and who don't work 90 hours a week so they have time to actually do it.

gd2 11y ago

True, but isn't part of it that one thinks that on the $9 album, the marketing and media company folks gets $8.50 of $9.00 But there is also artistry in creating a coffee or dining experience, and hopefully that money spent on the meal and coffee goes more to the chef artist who prepared the meal, the architect artist who designed the space, and the line cook, waitress and dishwasher.

seivan 11y ago

Tech isn't creative and artistic? Why is an "album" worth more than a graphics engine, drawing app or game? If anything music is overvalued. I'm surprised we haven't automated Skrillex and all that house crap yet. ;-)

rfrank 11y ago
> Why is an "album" worth more than a graphics engine... Why is a Picasso worth more than paint?
- seivan 11y ago
  Because the introduction of GPU's didn't come until 30~ years ago ;-) also it's a single physical item. It's more of a collective piece than actual art, at least today.

prmph 11y ago

One interesting explanation is that people seem to think (maybe rightly) that art and culture are cheapened by too much money. To be authentic, art and culture needs to be nearer to the struggling edges of society.